Author Topic: Super Yak? (Read 3077 times)

BlkKnit · « **Reply #15 on:** December 03, 2003, 11:58:06 PM »

well, did terrible tonight. guess the other night was a fluke. Its a nice plane, and fun, but its not a super machine. I will still be flying it though. 1 ping from .50 cal, and losing vertical stab sucks, but hey, maybe that was a fluke too. The radiator thing is truly annoying. I am learning to avoid HO's like my life depends on it....and running (extending) more than usual.

Tangled with a spit this afternoon, we went at it for quite a while, me extending and rolling back, extending away, trying to find the guys six, him trying to slow me down. Was lots of fun...in the end we both just flew away.

dfl8rms · « **Reply #16 on:** December 04, 2003, 07:51:15 AM »

Thanks for bringing up the yak -- I've been flying it for over year and last night I saw more of them than I ever have. I also kept seeing XXX landed 2 kills in a yak... in the text buffer.

It was fun seeing everyone trying it out, but I do hope that they all jump back into the truly uber planes soon.

Ack-Ack -- you are right I did have a problem last night with a decently sticked p38. In the end we settled for a draw (both flying away and engaging others). A couple other 38s were rudely surprised, but a decent stick with the 38 can be problematic for the yak.

Kweassa · « **Reply #17 on:** December 04, 2003, 08:44:53 AM »

It's in a mixed-match relationship with the La-7.

Slightly more maneuverability and less speed - Yak-9U
Slightly more speed and less maneuverability - La-7

You can disregard Ack, since no plane ever seems to bother his P-38L at all.

Not much of an analogy, and not much of a help as well.

As for the most of us average grade virtual pilots who constitute the majority of AH world, teh Yak-9U is a very fine machine which belongs in the same class as the Bf109G-10, Fw190D-9, La-7, and the P-51D. Since the element of success for average pilots in the MA is speed(to run away at the first sight of disavantage), the Yak-9U has speed enough. The fore-mentioned planes are about only ones that will catch it, and they are all outmaneuvered by it.

Ofcourse, when you get caught in a mixed match of Las and N1Ks or Spits, you're dead - but that's same with any plane any pilot, so not much of an issue. Concerning 1944 standards, it is one of the best planes with superb balance between speed and maneuverability. As a one vs one machine, it is also deadly lethal.

Among the faster planes, only the G-10 and the La-7 are pretty much a contest in close quarters maneuvering, with still quite a bit of edge going to the Yak. P-51s or 1909D-9s, will have a really hard time shaking it off if they don't have enough room to dive and extend.

As a LW plane fan, the Yak-9U is a bane to LW planes - I certainly wouldn't want to meet one on equal terms.

Urchin · « **Reply #18 on:** December 04, 2003, 12:09:05 PM »

I'd say the reason the Yak isn't more popular is because we have the La-7. The La-7 is just as manueverable, accelerates and climbs better, and has about 3 times the firepower. Oh yea, and it is 20 mph faster.

The Yak-9 is about in the same class as the 109G-10 and the 190D-9, its a solid second rate airplane.

BlkKnit · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2003, 01:31:37 PM »

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Originally posted by dfl8rms
Thanks for bringing up the yak -- I've been flying it for over year and last night I saw more of them than I ever have. I also kept seeing XXX landed 2 kills in a yak... in the text buffer.

I dunno...I been seeing a lot of them in the past month or so, which is what led me to try it again in the first place. I dont think I've seen but 1 or 2 of them since I started this thread though. But, it certainly was not me landing those kills in the text buffer....I have not landed more than 1 kill in a couple of days, so someone is flying them

Its a fun plane, but not a world beater...and WHAT IS UP WITH THE RADIATOR! that is even more annoying than the usual single ping, glancing shot "pilot wound" I always seem to get. Sometimes now I get both

gotta love it.

Rude · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2003, 02:58:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
I'd say the reason the Yak isn't more popular is because we have the La-7. The La-7 is just as manueverable, accelerates and climbs better, and has about 3 times the firepower. Oh yea, and it is 20 mph faster.

The Yak-9 is about in the same class as the 109G-10 and the 190D-9, its a solid second rate airplane.

Hiyas Urchin:)

Urchin · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2003, 03:31:02 PM »

Howdy, how ya been?

BlckMgk · « **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2003, 04:47:13 PM »

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Originally posted by BlkKnit
which is what led me to try it again in the first place. I dont think I've seen but 1 or 2 of them since I started this thread though. But, it certainly was not me landing those kills in the text buffer....I have not landed more than 1 kill in a couple of days, so someone is flying them

Its a fun plane, but not a world beater...and WHAT IS UP WITH I THE RADIATOR! that is even more annoying than the usual single ping, glancing shot "pilot wound" I always seem to get. Sometimes now I get both gotta love it.

heheh told ya..

GScholz · « **Reply #23 on:** December 04, 2003, 05:21:48 PM »

If you're of LW stock you need to fly the Yak like a fast 109F4.

If you're of Allied stock you need to fly it like a low-med alt B-Pony.

Really nice plane, a bit short ranged but the guns are great. The guns have a higher rate of fire than the LW counterparts, which gives them more destructive power at the cost of accuracy and ammo consumption. The Yak doesn't compress as fast as a 109, but it will compress before a Pony so you will still need to trim her manually in dives.

Zanth · « **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2003, 10:08:45 PM »

The other Russian planes seem to be doing OK against it though.

This Tour:

The La-5FN has 8 kills and has been killed 3 times against the Yak-9U. (La5 266%)

The La-7 has 71 kills and has been killed 66 times against the Yak-9U. (La7 108%)

Last Tour:

The La-5FN has 103 kills and has been killed 83 times against the Yak-9U. (La5 124%)

The La-7 has 533 kills and has been killed 501 times against the Yak-9U. (La7 106%)

Ecliptik · « **Reply #25 on:** December 04, 2003, 10:39:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Blooz
That other YAK thread made me nervous but this one's going to produce a horde of new YAK drivers.

Count one new Yak driver.

I tried it out for the first time seriously last night, and boy did I have a blast. Goes like a bat out of hell and handles wonderfully. The ballistics and ammo load take getting used to, but having to be stingy with ammo tends to improve your ACM skills as you manoeuver for a close shot, and your gunnery is helped by the need to hit on your first couple of bursts.

Rude · « **Reply #26 on:** December 05, 2003, 10:40:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Howdy, how ya been?

Doin great...heart beats and I'm walkin around:)

gofaster · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2003, 12:24:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
The Yak-9 is about in the same class as the 109G-10 and the 190D-9, its a solid second rate airplane.

That's the way I see it, too, along with the P-51B. There are better planes out there, but once you learn the idiosyncracies of the type it becomes a potent weapon. Last night I had good luck against Spitfire IXs in the Yak9U

Widewing · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2003, 12:53:34 PM »

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Originally posted by davidpt40
I put the Yak9 and Ki61 in the same category.

I can't, and I fly both on a regular basis (more Yak-9T tho). Aside from general configuration, they have almost nothing in common.

Climb is incomparable, level speed isn't even remotely close. Acceleration differences are like night and day. Range? The Ki-61 can fly along way with drop tanks and internal fuel, the Yak is a one sector fighter. Guns? Absolutely no brainer here, Ki-61 wins by a country mile. Turning ability is similar until speeds drop below 200 mph where the Yak is badly outclassed.

I don't simply don't see how they can fit into the same category.

My regards,

Widewing

Sikboy · « **Reply #29 on:** December 05, 2003, 01:12:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
I don't simply don't see how they can fit into the same category.

At first I thought the same think, in that yo can not fly them bothh the same way and expect results.

But I think they are similiar in that they are planes you don't see as often, but can yeild good results (although from reports this isi changinig and therer are more and more yakmen as the days go by).

They are both "Better than thier MA reputation" I think.
-Sik