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Offline Mighty1

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2003, 03:24:47 PM »
Muckmaw why are you trying to explain this to a liberal? They don't see it as bias they see it as the only way to tell the truth. Well Their view of the truth.

The story should have read:

A Anti-War activist in Iraq tries to see her daughter who is to busy doing her job protecting the rights of Americans to see her mother.  The Mother doesn't understand why she can't see her daughter since she asked nicley at the front gate. Well her and her Anti-War crowd. She is outraged and sadened when she was told her daughter was to busy fighting a war to come to the gate. The mother immediatly blamed Bush saying "He is trying to punish me because he knows I'm right and he is Satan!"
The Mother and her Anti-War friends left and went back to their Hosts home. Uncle Saddam!


Sorry this smacks of liberal media.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2003, 04:18:08 PM »
When I read this:
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"I have not seen her in three years, I don't know why they are doing this,"
 I thought exactly the same thing as Pongo.  If she hasn't seen her daughter in three years, its sure isn't the Armys fault.  Most likely, the daughter doesnt give a damn about seeing her.  The daughter gets at least a month leave a year, and can afford a plane ticket.  If the Mother can afford to get herself to Iraq, she could have afforded a plane ticket to see her daughter whereever she was stationed in peacetime.  I also can't help but wonder if those idiot parents don't realize they could easily be kidnapped since they are making such obvious targets of themselves, then held in some kind of extortion attempt or blackmail.

Why didnt the reporter find out why it had been 3 years since she saw her daughter?  He could have asked the Army, but he decided instead to let it appear on the surface that because her daughter is under Army command, the daughter hasn't been able to see her for 3 years.   Lets not provide balance here Mr. Reporter, lets not include all the facts to give a balanced and complete report.

Anyone else wonder about the dichotomy of a "Peace Activist" having a daugther in the Army and wonder if that might be the reason they have been apart 3 years?  Do you wonder if the "Peace Activist" only showed up at the Army post in Iraq to make a "statement", to try and embarrass the Army? Did she go so far out of her way to visit the Daughter at her normal stateside posting?  I doubt it.   Do you wonder if the vast ideological differances between Mother and Daughter are behind the 3 year seperation?  The reporter sure didnt bother to wonder about any of these things or report on them, nor did he bother to ask those questions.  Cant make the Army/US Administration look bad if you provide balance.

Loved this one too:

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When a group of U.S.-trained Iraqi policemen showed up, American soldiers loaded their weapons.

I guess we are too believe that troops guarding the military complex do so with unloaded weapons?  More likely another reporter who had no clue what he was talking about and wanted his report to sound dramatic.  I am pretty sure they had loaded weapons, though they might have chambered a round if they feared possible trouble.

When the US Army has to jump at the whim of every peace activist parent, we might as well disband the military.  They should have just tossed some CS gas gernades at them hippies.

Liberal bias is everywhere in reporting.  The funny thing about it is most liberals think that the way they think is normal, everything else is wrong, so they never detect liberal bias in reporting.

Small example of liberal bias:

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Asked if protests were illegal in the new Iraq, he told reporters: "There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk."

"We miss the days of Saddam," said Iraqi policeman Mohammed Shawki.  


No counterpoint, no American officers or diplomats given a chance to respond, to explain the efforts being made to improve things.  Why didnt he mention that the "Iraqi policeman" was one of those who should be protecting individual human rights?

Just report some rhetoric babbled by some fool, and let it stand to form peoples opinions.  Why didn't the reporter discuss or compare the human rights of people under Saddams regime?  You know, something like "Saddams human rights guarantee you have the right to be tortured by any vicious means we can think of, you have the right to be murdered enmass and be buried in unmarked mass graves, you have the right to be thrown into secret prisons for no reason for as long was Saddam feels like, you have the right to watch your children die because we won't provide medicine to the hospitals, you have the right to watch your daughters get raped and tortured for Udays amusement"  Are those the rights he missed under Saddam?

Why didn't the reporter provide any balance to the Iraqi policemans comment?  Oh, whats that?  Because if he did it might help make people understand that our involvement in Iraq isn't all bad????  Thats not liberal bias, oh noooooo.  BS

Lets consider the title of the article"
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Mom Vainly Tries to See U.S. Iraq Soldier Daughter


Would it have been incorrect or maybe more accurate to have a title like

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" Mother shows up at an active Army Complex in a War Zone and makes demands the Army produce her Soldier Daughter"



Liberal bias is there, you just have to think about it some.  I suggest anyone who has trouble seeing it to read Bernard Goldbergs book "Bias".

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2003, 04:26:01 PM »
lol
ya Ill get to that right after manufacturing consent.

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2003, 04:30:24 PM »
I don't know if that article is biased or not, but that lady sure is a dumb ass, and the author appears to be not much better.  A lot of liberals are dumb tulips too but it doesn't make it a liberal-biased story.  :)

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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2003, 05:47:59 PM »
sounds like a pissed of reporter, pissed off at the army. im saying misplaced aggresion. liberal bias in the media ohh your killin me its like saying there is overweight john  bias in most hoars. makes no sense if you know the beast. media is a hoar end of story.

not a hard senario to imaine.

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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2003, 06:06:49 PM »
LOL you will get to see ur family when the Army TELLS you you can see them!!:D

Thats pretty much the way It goes.
Also It seems Like mom made this into a publicity stunt as well.

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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2003, 06:35:58 PM »
There's no bias here, and not much of a story either.

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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2003, 09:21:42 PM »
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Originally posted by muckmaw


When a group of U.S.-trained Iraqi policemen showed up, American soldiers loaded their weapons.


"The Americans asked us to come here to stop the demonstration," said Iraqi policeman Mohanan Taha.


Asked if protests were illegal in the new Iraq, he told reporters: "There are no human rights under the Americans. Nothing. It is all empty talk."


"We miss the days of Saddam," said Iraqi policeman Mohammed Shawki.



 



Now I usually stay out of these type discussions. But I read this article on yahoo earlier. And was waiting for someone to post this here in the O' Club.

I do agree with the view that it is a hostile enviornment and she should not be there. (Not to rub it in) But I guess If all major hostilities have ended I dont see why she shouldnt be allowed to visit the new "Free Iraq", And maybe see her daughter when it is convienent for the Army, not for her mother.

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I found the Iraqi police comment quite scary. If it is true, I cant see Iraqi's governing thier own people. It seems like the US Army cant trust the police force they created if they have to load their guns when the Iraqi police arrive.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2003, 11:27:46 PM »
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Originally posted by Dowding
It still reports the facts and offers no comment. I suggest you re-familiarize yourself with the term 'bias'.
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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2003, 12:14:22 AM »
This woman hasn't seen her daughter in 3 years yet she travels all the way to Iraq to see her? Or is she an Iraqi? Just doesn't add up. Maybe the daughter wasn't there cause she didn't want to see her mother? The article creates more questions than it answers.
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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2003, 02:02:36 AM »
I can't see anything pro or con about the article.  As a matter of fact, I find it entirely bland.

But... Personally, I'd be embarrased right out of my mind if Mom came to visit me while I was in Iraq!  EGAD!  Daughter probably arranged the "mission" all by herself.

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2003, 02:09:06 AM »
Can't see any bias myself...must be looking at it wrong...(unless Bias is some kind of real bad anagram for bland - but then it wouldn't be an anagram would it :p )

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2003, 02:10:18 PM »
i dont see any political spin on this story ether way. although i dont understand why they didnt let them in. i doubt if the CO's wife showed up for a visit she would had to wait outside the gate. did the mother carry anti-war sign? this seems rather odd to me because when i was in the army. they tried hard to stay on good terms with the familys of soldiers. i just dont understand this. maybe there is more to this story than reported.
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2003, 04:24:47 PM »
She's probably humiliated.  It would be like working at Wilson's leather, and having your mom outside carrying a sign and throwing red paint on the customers.  Pretty thoughtless and selfish of her.

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2003, 06:05:25 PM »
I have discussed this article with my aunt who is a freelance journalist and she pretty much said what Schotz did.

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