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[Camel]

Rgr that,  Thunder
I cant really play boxed sims anymore, for the reasons you gave.

TT, I have to disagree with both getting the kill in an HO, only because anything to discourage such dweebery(HO'ing) would be fine with me. If you put yourself in a position to die, you should'nt receive anything.

[TT]

 I have never understood the HO whine. In over a year of WB and here. I have never, not ever, been forced to HO. There is allways an option if you look. I HO all the time simply because it takes skill to do it with out getting killed. I use rudder shots mostly (works great). Im working on doing a barrel roll during the HO, in a 190, at the moment (needs more work. Got a few kills though.) If I think the other guy is good at HO,s I use other ACM. It takes next to nothing to ruin an HO shot. It is just a type of merge, and a predictable one at that. Its pretty easy to set up for your 6 shot if you know what the guy is going to do.

[shower]

another thing: if someone ditches you should get the kill.  if you force their plane out of the air due to damage or a hopless situation you've done your job, right? especially if it's closer to your base and the plane/pilot will likely be captured.

-shower