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« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2003, 05:59:00 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2003, 06:24:56 PM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
You dont believe that Gore got more votes then Bush?

Its a fasinating algorithm that the attorny general of Florida insisted on to decide if a voter should be barred from voting for a previos conviction of a felony.
If there was an ex felon named Jones. and your name was Jones. Then your vote was counted if you were white. But rejected if you where black. Even if felon Jones was white...

The white vs black comparison over rode all other factors including the exact spelling of the name.  

Over 90 000 blacks that were never felons had thier votes discarded for that reason.  Many of them lost thier votes for felonys comitted by whites.
Of course many white felons had thier votes counted.

Course the lady that arranged that little gem now works for the Washington line of the family instead of the Florida line of the family. She will likey have to serve as chief electoral officer in Iraq.


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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2003, 06:32:47 PM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
You dont believe that Gore got more votes then Bush?

Its a fasinating algorithm that the attorny general of Florida insisted on to decide if a voter should be barred from voting for a previos conviction of a felony.
If there was an ex felon named Jones. and your name was Jones. Then your vote was counted if you were white. But rejected if you where black. Even if felon Jones was white...

The white vs black comparison over rode all other factors including the exact spelling of the name.  

Over 90 000 blacks that were never felons had thier votes discarded for that reason.  Many of them lost thier votes for felonys comitted by whites.
Of course many white felons had thier votes counted.

Course the lady that arranged that little gem now works for the Washington line of the family instead of the Florida line of the family. She will likey have to serve as chief electoral officer in Iraq.

A classic!

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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2003, 06:43:34 PM »
That's what's scary about people like him.  He honestly believes that.

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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2003, 07:17:05 PM »
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Its a fasinating algorithm that the attorny general of Florida insisted on to decide if a voter should be barred from voting for a previos conviction of a felony.
If there was an ex felon named Jones. and your name was Jones. Then your vote was counted if you were white. But rejected if you where black. Even if felon Jones was white...

The white vs black comparison over rode all other factors including the exact spelling of the name.


woulld you mind proving this?
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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2003, 12:32:22 AM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
You dont believe that Gore got more votes then Bush?

Its a fasinating algorithm that the attorny general of Florida insisted on to decide if a voter should be barred from voting for a previos conviction of a felony.
If there was an ex felon named Jones. and your name was Jones. Then your vote was counted if you were white. But rejected if you where black. Even if felon Jones was white...

The white vs black comparison over rode all other factors including the exact spelling of the name.  

Over 90 000 blacks that were never felons had thier votes discarded for that reason.  Many of them lost thier votes for felonys comitted by whites.
Of course many white felons had thier votes counted.

Course the lady that arranged that little gem now works for the Washington line of the family instead of the Florida line of the family. She will likey have to serve as chief electoral officer in Iraq.


Arent you candadian?  No offense to any other candadians...
I'd like to see proof of this dribble....

Didnt you forget to mention during this whole fiasco that the gore camp only wanted a recount in predominantly democratic countys and not the whole state?  

Get over it....popular vote or not its the electoral that puts a prez in office.


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Funny chit.
Clinton destroyed the Democratic party by ... uhm, by maintaining the highest approval rating over an 8 year term in the last 50 years? Yea... that did it.

No wait... it was that dratted fake economic boom.... you remember it. the longest in our history.... that killed those pesky dems.

Orrrrr maybe it was those policemen who kept having less and less to do over the Clinton terms.... you know with less crime to fight. I bet Clinton used them to kill the democratic party... the inscrutable bastage!!



is this why they lost all them seats in the senate and the house in the last two elections....and the presidency?????

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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2003, 12:59:46 AM »
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Bush is finally beginiing to talk and act like a seasoned president.  


I like how he surrendered to the WTO and then declared victory.

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2003, 02:03:27 AM »
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Didnt you forget to mention during this whole fiasco that the gore camp only wanted a recount in predominantly democratic countys and not the whole state?


So, the Florida law said specifically that they could do just that.

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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2003, 10:53:27 AM »
Hush now children.
Your own congress has investigated this and found it true. You shouldnt need a mean old Canadian to tell you how your democrocy works.
lol.
Back to sleep now..dream of laser guided bombs or what ever makes you happy.

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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2003, 10:54:31 AM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
Hush now children.
Your own congress has investigated this and found it true. You shouldnt need a mean old Canadian to tell you how your democrocy works.
lol.
Back to sleep now..dream of laser guided bombs or what ever makes you happy.


Sources?

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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2003, 10:58:40 AM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
You dont believe that Gore got more votes then Bush?

Its a fasinating algorithm that the attorny general of Florida insisted on to decide if a voter should be barred from voting for a previos conviction of a felony.
If there was an ex felon named Jones. and your name was Jones. Then your vote was counted if you were white. But rejected if you where black. Even if felon Jones was white...

The white vs black comparison over rode all other factors including the exact spelling of the name.  

Over 90 000 blacks that were never felons had thier votes discarded for that reason.  Many of them lost thier votes for felonys comitted by whites.
Of course many white felons had thier votes counted.

Course the lady that arranged that little gem now works for the Washington line of the family instead of the Florida line of the family. She will likey have to serve as chief electoral officer in Iraq.


Sources?

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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2003, 11:15:42 AM »
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Sources?


keep dreaming.  Those bozos never provide sources.

The next post will be along the lines of:

"I'm not going to waste my time explaining this to someone that doesn't want to understand it.  The sources are readily available.  Look for them."

Or, they'll just ignore it.

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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2003, 11:37:19 AM »
Its a Canadian troll...funny they so want to be in our politics.  :rofl

No offense to our friends up North...be nice to them...their socialism is eating them alive.  When their military goes broke, I just want to be at the auctions for the F-18s  :D

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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2003, 11:41:52 AM »
A search  "florida black votes" on google yields a lot of links but the truthfullness of each has to be evaluated. The numbers do not match.

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The Lynching of the Black Vote

As the New York Times first reported, Florida election officials devised a laptop program allowing local election officials to tap directly into the master database in Tallahassee to determine whether a voter who did not show up on local rolls was in fact registered to vote. But only one of the laptop computers was distributed to a black area.


The Times reported that the precincts equipped with laptops favored Bush. In predominantly black precincts, if a voter found his or her name wrongly omitted from the rolls, a harried polling place worker had to try to get through to Tallahassee on the phone, and the lines were invariably busy. In Miami-Dade, black votes were thrown out at four times the rate of white votes.

It also turns out that many of the blacks whose names were mysteriously disqualified were not purged accidentally. As Gregory Palast reported in the internet magazine Salon.com, Republican officials hired ChoicePoint, an outside vendor with Republican ties, to cleanse the rolls of felons - but at least 8,000 names, disproportionately minority, were improperly deleted.


 8,000 (plus however many were turned away in a laptop fiasco) of this source is not 90,000 and who knows how many of them would have voted for the Buchanan or cast an invalid ballot. But a few thousand is close enough to the margin of victory.


 Not that I care a bit about the issue in question. Just wanted to point to Grun that abcense of references is not evidence of abcense. In modern world when all it takes is google and five seconds to construct a query, the "What are your sources?" is rarely a good resort but more an indication of doctrinaire closedmindendess. Like "I could find the sources in ten secohnds myself, but since you did not provide them, I consider your argument invalid".

 People are not writing monographies here and often do not remember where they read something - sometimes in print media or heard on TV/radio, so the exact source may be impossible to provide. But there is usually supporting information to be found on the web for the willing to try.

 Against those who have made their minds citing sources does not necessarily help. They just openly ignore and even laugh at "walls of text", quotes and references.
 At best, they would just say that a sourse cited is lying (which often is the case) - but they do not present any evidence themselves that it is lying, only their opinion, while insisting on others substantiating their opinions.

 miko

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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2003, 11:51:17 AM »
Miko I want sources for the 90,000 figure. I want sources fot the idea that whites were allowed to vote if named Jones and blacks named Jones were not, or that white felons were allowed to vote while only black fellons were not.

Those accusations are a far cry from everything I have been able to find, which includes the info you posted.

So still I simply ask Pongo for his sources.