Author Topic: AH2 vs. Radeons (Read 3418 times)

Wilbus · « **Reply #15 on:** December 16, 2003, 04:58:30 PM »

ATI has got Nvida beat in about everything else. I only have probs in AH2.

mrblack · « **Reply #16 on:** December 16, 2003, 05:02:26 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
wow, glad I didnt go ahead and grab an ATI card last upgrade. I put a Ti4200 (128mg) in instead (just happened to be on sale...looked in one of mags and card had a great review). Anyway I'm getting 43-52 fps maxed out in AHII....so far so good. I'm suprised the ATI cards are getting hit so hard compared to the nvidia chipset cards.

Im getting 75FPS with ATI 9800pro 128meg
at 1600x12004xFAA and all eye candy on.
Maybe you should have got an ATI:aok

mrblack · « **Reply #17 on:** December 16, 2003, 05:04:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Obehave
Yep, I've got a radeon 9800 pro and the frame rates in the beta are usually in the 40's at best. Very klunky compared to the regular AH. It says I have lots of unused video memory so maybe it's just a beta problem.....

Thats odd I have the same card And Im getting 75FPS.
4X FAA 1600x1200res all the stuff turned on.
And v-synch enabled as well.
What drivers you got?

humble · « **Reply #18 on:** December 16, 2003, 08:11:01 PM »

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Originally posted by mrblack
Im getting 75FPS with ATI 9800pro 128meg
at 1600x12004xFAA and all eye candy on.
Maybe you should have got an ATI:aok

I think I payed $129 (was a ~179-200 card back then)...I dont remember the 9800 even being out....if it was I bet it was a $300+ card.

From everything I've heard the ATI has the Nvidia beat hands down on clarity etc....certainly an option next rebuild.

TweetyBird · « **Reply #19 on:** December 16, 2003, 11:05:50 PM »

You know, from a person who has suffered from fps problems since day one of online flight sims, really, what more can you do at 75 fps, that you can't do at 50 fps? I mean after 30-35 it gets smooth to human eye, so what is the deal of having 50+?

This takes for granted you're getting at least 30 fps in furballs over fields. If not, I can well understand the problems.

Obehave · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2003, 11:00:39 AM »

Mr. Black, I'm using the Catalyst driver that came with the Radeon 9800 pro. It's '6.14.10.6334' in Device Manager in Windows. I'd like any help on settings and drivers for this card you know of...... I'm used to Nvidia cards and am trying to like my new ATI card.

Thanks!

214thCavalier · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2003, 12:04:00 PM »

Go here

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html

Select your operating system etc, download and install.

Obehave your drivers are version 3.34 i am currently using the 3.87 but the latest version is 3.90

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:02:23 PM »

hell im in the 30s with a radion 8500 64 ( not the se)

payed 90usd a year ago.

yall shure like to spend money.

guttboy · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2003, 05:07:46 PM »

Hi Gents....

Tried the 9600 xt with 128 megs on it and it seemed very choppy....so I did the "NASTY DEED" and bought me a

9800XT with 256 meg ram on it.

Very choppy still...have the new catalyst drivers on it. In flight i am around 20-40 usually around 20 fps.

System is Win XP Pro with 256 meg ram 2.0 GHZ processor.

Very disappointed with AH2 and the graphics with such a good card.

Just my 3 cents...

TG12:confused:

SunKing · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2003, 05:21:19 PM »

"I mean after 30-35 it gets smooth to human eye, so what is the deal of having 50+? "

Isn't that 60-65 fps? Anything less than 60 hurts.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2003, 05:33:05 PM »

AA 4
AF 2 and performance not quality. For AH2 can run this at 8x no penalty.
Texture pref and mipmap detail high quality.
Vert sync, trueform and smartshader all OFF.
1600x1200 at 32 bit.
AGP in bios set at 128mb.
Had a problem before where game was very choppy especially near the ground (in AH1) IIRC changed mouse and found the cure.
However at the time was using win98 and the catalysts are known to be a bit buggy with mouse cursors etc in 98.

Above are my settings.

Whoa just seen your using winXP pro, i believe 256mb is generally accepted as being the bare minimum for running XP.

Also look here try to find a nearest match to your system for a comparison running AH2.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101278

Also what do you have the video settings set at in AH2 ?

guttboy · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2003, 07:07:31 PM »

running it several ways....

1600x1200 and 1280x1024

similar results

tried the sliders....moved back and forth and tried the blocks to check and uncheck. Frames when looking at different angles in flight go upwards of 50 or so but can get bogged down flying towards a base dropping to 17 was the lowest.

Been doing a combo of the sliders and inflight average for both screen res is in the 20s low.

The card is running in overclock mode..with settings set on anisotoperic SP? and anti aliasing maxed out.

TG12

F4i · « **Reply #27 on:** December 18, 2003, 02:46:58 AM »

Just a note... I updated my drivers with the CATALYST 3.9 from http://www.ati.com, and I actually noticed some better performance during offline play in patch 7 with all of the options enabled in the video setup. FPS was as high as 78 (a first for me) and stuck in the high 50's/mid 60's during close flight near smoking drones, etc.

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe it was the latest version of AH2 that made the difference.

((shrug)) Anyway, updated drivers is a must.

TBolt

Wilbus · « **Reply #28 on:** December 18, 2003, 03:36:28 AM »

Everything above the 30's in FPS is a waste.

A TV is running at 27 I believe.

TweetyBird · « **Reply #29 on:** December 19, 2003, 12:04:33 AM »

A 60mhz refresh rate hurts the eyes just because its very close to the same frequency of some brain function or retina effect I'm not sure of right now. Its not that its because its too slow, but its almost identical in frequency and creates a stobing effect - sort of like filming a 30 fps video with a 30 fps video youll see the strobe.
Well thats why I heard 60 mhz refresh rate is so hard on people.
If there were a such thing as a 45 mhz refresh rate, it wouldn't be bothersome.

But fps is different. As one person mentioned, television is about 30 fps (full frames anyway, 2 interleaved half frames at 1/60th of a sec) - as are most animations.