Author Topic: German Carrier-Based Aircraft (Read 1553 times)

MajorDay · « **Reply #15 on:** December 14, 2003, 10:25:59 AM »

So, What happened to Graf Zepplin Carrier now?

Sikboy · « **Reply #16 on:** December 14, 2003, 10:30:11 AM »

Razor Blades would be my guess.

-Sik

lazs2 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 14, 2003, 10:47:11 AM »

The 109 t would be easy to model... just take a 109 e and add 1,000 lbs of tail hook and stregthened airframe. It would not be any tougher than a regular e model tho except in ditching and landing.

JBravo · « **Reply #18 on:** December 14, 2003, 11:41:45 AM »

LOL:aok
i wanna the carrier's 109:D

MajorDay · « **Reply #19 on:** December 14, 2003, 06:10:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy
Razor Blades would be my guess.

-Sik

Are you serious?! I kid you not!

Sikboy · « **Reply #20 on:** December 14, 2003, 06:30:21 PM »

According to Warships1.com, it was used as a Target by the Russians.

-Sik

zmeg · « **Reply #21 on:** December 14, 2003, 06:31:02 PM »

The Germans skuttled it near the end of the war, the Russians later raised it and used it as a target ship. Another report say it struck a mine off the coast of Norway.

Shuckins · « **Reply #22 on:** December 14, 2003, 09:01:30 PM »

I'm not as greedy as Math. They can have their 109T if I can have my F6F-6.

Shuckins

LWACE · « **Reply #23 on:** December 14, 2003, 11:12:54 PM »

109 for CV is IMO one of the next things that should be added, only place LW is lacking is in that field, i dont think the G-6 should be done for it, but i dont think the 109Ts should be added as itd be really easy, but no point in worrying bout it, AH2 is still long ways off, doubt theyll add anything till thats all done.

GScholz · « **Reply #24 on:** December 15, 2003, 05:32:30 PM »

T-0 (1939)
Ten pre production T-0 airframes were produced. It was based on the E-3 with a new wing of greater span and powered by the DB 601Aa. It had an arrester hook and two catapult hooks under the fuselage.

T-1 (1940)
In total 60 T-1’s were produced. This was based on the E-4/N with the DB 601N engine. The T-1 was fully “navalized” with arrester hook and catapult hooks. As the interest in the German carrier disappeared, the T-1’s were rebuild as T-2’s devoid of all naval equipment.

T-2 (1941)
This were the T-1 airframes without the arrester hook and catapult hooks but retaining the greater span wing. They served on Helgoland and in Norway.

Grendel · « **Reply #25 on:** December 16, 2003, 07:07:08 AM »

And those 109 Ts were used operationally . One of them shot down the first B-17 shot down in European theatre.

The 109 Ts were in continious use until '43 or '44 until they all were worn out.

T model is no prototype but a series built combat fighter.

And by the way - it was larger wings than any 109. It is the turn'n'burn variant of 109 family!

Furball · « **Reply #26 on:** December 16, 2003, 07:31:37 AM »

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The first 10 aircraft were of the pre production Series (T-0), followed by 60 production aircraft of the T-1 series. When construction of the Graf Zeppelin was halted in 1940, further development of the Me 109 T was stopped, too. In late 1940 Fiesler was ordered to complete the 60 T-1 models but to remove all all carrier-equipment. The result were 60 aircraft of the now called T-2 series which were able to operate from short land airstrips.

70 were made!!!! we MUST have it in aces high!! in fact; lets rename the game 109T's off of imaginary carriers High!

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 16, 2003, 08:10:48 AM »

grendl... it needs larger wings to stay in the air with that 109e engine and 1,000 extra pounds.

lazs

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2003, 12:53:08 PM »

im still thinking 800 or so pounds of structrual addition ( addmited guess ) it must have been a little tougher than the standard 109 probly a lot. look at the oustanding toughness/surviavability of u.s. naval carrier craft compaired to a p40 or p51.

Grendel · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2003, 04:14:48 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
grendl... it needs larger wings to stay in the air with that 109e engine and 1,000 extra pounds.

lazs

How much Seafire's and Seahurricane's wings were enlarged to make them carrier capable? To my knowledge none at all, even when those planes were also heavier due the new carrier equipment.

Larger wings were to facilitate takeoff and landing to shorter carrier runways. Since the carrier never came operational the 109 Ts were specially used from fields which had unusually short runways, as they could takeoff and land from them without difficulty, unlike normal 109s.

Free suggestion: why not restrict to comment on ONLY those subjects on which you actually know something? Making fantasy claims doesn't help anyone.