b17 ackstarring questions

[bloom25]

Good to hear the positive response.  (Now I wish I would have hit him   FYI I did later shoot down the b17 of the person who accused me of ackstarring, with a b17.  It was quite a battle, high g's in a 17 at 5k off the ground.  It took well over 50+ pings to get him.  Lots of fun!   )

The person who accused me of ackstarring (it was not Rojo ) did so after I complemented him on the great b17 vs. b17 battle we had.

I would still like to hear from him to get his side of the story.

(To Rojo:  I too like to try to take off from capped fields.  It's a lot of fun if you can make it up, because there's always a fighter or two right in front of you to shoot at.  I gotten a lot of kills doing this, (got killed even more times while doing it   )

Guess all I have to do now is improve my gunnery.  

[jarbo]

As long as its a human gunner, I have no problem with this!  

BTW: Last nite, I had a B17 try to sneak up on my B17.  It became an airborne gunboat battle and was a blast.  

Anyone up for getting maybe 12 people together in 2 sides of 3 B17s w/gunners and have an airborne battle.  I am!      

[214CaveJ]

I'm for it jarbo, it'd be a riot =)
I was rtb from a sortie earlier today and got a call of a high 17 hitting one of our fields.  So I climbed back up and pretty much went HO with this other 17.  Jumped to the chin gun and stood on the trigger, sawing of his right wing =)  Sure was pretty watching it catch fire and start tumbling down =)

[-ik-]

ackstar is a warbirds term, and is usually said of someone who uses his robot gunners to attack other aircraft instead of only relying on them for defense. The robot gunners of Warbirds are so accurate it's not even worth laughing at. So in this case, since you were the one doing to shooting, I see no problem. Good thing pyro and ht decided to not repeat their mistake of the past.

[leonid]

The two things that drive me nuts about B-17s has nothing to do with defensive gunnery.  It's 1) lack of a realistic ceiling, and 2) lack of stress limits.  What I don't understand is why the B-17 is allowed to fly above 30k when it would have seriously jeopardized the gunner crew who were completely exposed to the elements.  Flying up there like a pressurized 747 is very unrealistic.

The other thing, stress limits, will be fixed as soon as HTC get to modelling it, but in the meantime, I'll have to endure the diving attacks of BnZ B-17s.  And yes, just yesterday morning I was bounced by a frickin' Flying Fortress at 20k, finally shaking him off with a split ess (he couldn't follow that).  As it was, the buff keep alt and went its maniacally merry way.  What was I flying?  A La-5FN.

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129 IAP VVS RKKA

[eskimo]

Only the c-47 has a worse kill ratio than the b-17 in AH (it's about .69 kills per death).  flying a CAP over a field in a B-17 is no easier than in any other plane.  Once fighters are airborn they should be able to run from a B-17 if they choose to.
eskimo

[JOLT]

I think we should come up with a new name for this procedure. The term ackstar does not apply in AH.
If you were diving to the aid of an unarmed countryman, in a B-17 maybe we should call them "BraveStars"
Its tough to switch from gun to gun and maintain level flight.
That's my 2 cents :-)
JOLT