Author Topic: The Armed Citizen - Dec 2003 (Read 2304 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** December 15, 2003, 10:53:37 AM »

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Police seek answers in shooting death of Warren teenager

By: John Michalak, Special to the Macomb Daily December 09, 2003

The mood was somber and the stories rampant among students at Hazel Park High School Monday in the aftermath of the shooting death of junior Ashleigh Ann Moomaw, 16, of Warren.

Moomaw was found dead early Sunday at a house on the 100 block of West Madge, Hazel Park. She was shot once in the head and the cause has been ruled a homicide, an Oakland County Medical Examiner spokesman said.
Moomaw's "on-again, off-again" 17-year-old boyfriend of Hazel Park is in police custody for the shooting,
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Teen Convicted Of Killing Honor Student
Emotional Outburst Follows Decision

POSTED: 3:34 PM PST December 10, 2003

LOS ANGELES -- An 18-year-old man was convicted of first-degree murder Wednesday for last year's shooting death of a 14-year-old honor student at a South Los Angeles bus stop.

A nine-man, three-woman panel deliberated just over a day before finding Antwaine Devon Butler guilty of the Nov. 21, 2002, killing of Clive Jackson Jr.

Butler will face a state prison term of 45 to 50 years to life when he stands before Superior Court Judge Judith Champagne on Feb. 5. As he was being led away, the teenager pounded his fist on a wall.
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Girlfriend Arrested In Man's Shooting
By John Lyon
times record • jlyon@swtimes.com

A Crawford County man was hospitalized Sunday with a gunshot wound to the neck, an investigator said. The man’s live-in girlfriend was arrested in the shooting.

Kenny A. Smith, 42, was admitted to a Fort Smith hospital in critical condition Sunday, Crawford County Sheriff’s Office investigator Sgt. Aaron Beshears said. No information on Smith’s condition was available Monday.

Beshears said officers were dispatched to Smith’s residence in the 400 block of Gregory Chapel Road in the Alma area about 5:30 a.m. Sunday, in response to a report of a disturbance. Before the officers arrived at the scene, the Sheriff’s Office received another report that a man had been shot.
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Spurned Houseguest Arrested in Fatal Shooting of His Host
By MICHAEL WILSON and OREN YANIV

Published: December 10, 2003

houseguest who was told he had overstayed his welcome at a Bronx home returned the next night and joked about shooting his host, only to actually do it when the man came home on Monday, the police and the dead man's aunt said.

The victim, Sean Riley, died a little before midnight on Monday, a day after his 34th birthday, when he was shot in the head in the kitchen of his aunt's home on East 215th Street in Olinville, the police said. The houseguest, Latee Robinson, 25, of East 112th Street in
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Posted on Mon, Dec. 08, 2003

City girl, 11, in serious condition after being shot

An 11-year-old Philadelphia girl was in serious condition at Temple Children's Medical Center yesterday after being shot in the right shoulder by a 10-year-old cousin, police said.

Police said the incident occurred about 10:50 a.m. yesterday in the home of Tracy Wilkins, 30, the girl's aunt, in the 5300 block of Gillespie Street in the city's Frankford section.
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December 11, 2003

18-Year-Old Convicted in Teen's Slaying (LA Times)
Hardeeville man shot, killed at bar (Island Packet)
Apparent murder-suicide stuns Rocklin (Auburn Journal)
Middletown man slain in hallway (Dayton Daily News)
Police Say Man Shoots Himself After Overnight Shooting (ChannelOklahoma.com)
Wylam shooting kills two men; gunfire later hits house (Birmingham News)
December 10, 2003

Three arrested in S.J. slayings (The Mercury News)
Murder-Suicide Details Emerge (KZTV10)
Man convicted, gets life term in daughter's shooting death (Houston Chronicle)
Police seek answers in shooting death of Warren teenager (Macomb Daily)
Teen Convicted Of Killing Honor Student (NBC4, CA)
Man Gets 55 Years For Deaths Of Pregnant Girlfriend, Baby (IndyChannel.com)
December 9, 2003

Two Dead in Visalia Plant Shooting (Tulane Advance Register)
Scuffle over money ends in shooting (Sun Herald)
Three found dead in Plano home (Houston Chronicle)
Girlfriend Arrested In Man's Shooting (Times Record)
Suspect Charged in Kidnapping, Fatal Shooting of Caledonia Man (Winona Daily)
Spurned Houseguest Arrested in Fatal Shooting of His Host (New York Times)
December 8, 2003

Man Fatally Shot At Southfield Nightclub (WDIV)
City girl, 11, in serious condition after being shot (Philadelphia Inquirer)
Springfield Shooting (WAND, IL)
Shooting victim airlifted to Seattle hospital (Everett Herald)
Gang-related violence continues (San Francisco Examiner)
A Man Shot And Killed On The Southeast Side (WOAI, TX)
December 7, 2003

Shooting at gas station leaves 1 dead, 1 injured (Houston Chronicle)
2 Teens, 1 Man Injured In Possibly Related Shootings (OmahaChannel.com)
Simi Valley Man Shot Near Friend's Home (Los Angeles Times)
Man Shot At Barber-Scotia College (WSOCtv.com)
Man gets 25-year term in slaying of car dealer (Indianapolis Star)
Teen Arrested In Volunteer Coach's Shooting (KSDK, MO)
December 6, 2003

Shooting in Capitol Heights Claims One (KJLA, DC)
Woman gets 15 years for shooting boyfriend (San Diego Union Tribune)
One dead, two injured in Anchorage shooting (Fairbanks Daily News)
Mom shot in head while holding tot (Times Picayune)
NC Toddler Shooting Death Case Resolved (Wired News)
Murder trial begins in west Modesto slaying of teen (Modesto Bee)
December 5, 2003

Couple Accused Of Killing High School Student Expected In Court Friday (NBC 4, CA)
Man Faces Sentencing In Fatal MTA Busjacking Case (NBC4, CA)
Ex-Policeman Gets 30 Years In Neighborhood Shooting Rampage (WNBC, NY)
12 Year-Old Killed while Playing with Gun (KABC,CA)
Friends puzzle over retired man's death (Tallahassee Democrat)
Ohio Freeway Shooting Cases Rise to 14 (ABC News)
December 4, 2003

Ocala Teen Sentenced to Two Weeks for Shooting, Killing Friend (Bradenton Herald)
Dodge City man convicted of shooting into an occupied pickup truck (Dodge Globe)
Man Shoots Self in Store Parking Lot (Hattiesburg American)
3 teens still in custody for shooting (Courier Post)
Man sentenced in shooting death (Sun Herald)
Ex-BSU student sentenced to 25 years in shooting death (IdahoStatesman.com)
December 3, 2003

Man Calls Children's Shooting an Accident (New York Times)
Glendale Couple Die in Reported Murder-Suicide (LA Times)
Woman Allegedly Shoots, Stabs Boyfriend (Texarkana Gazette)
Police Arrest Suspect in Double Slaying (LA Times)
Shooter Turns Gun on Himself (The Meridian Star)
Teenage Girl Shot, Killed in E. Oakland (Alameda Times-Star)
December 2, 2003

Man Accused of Killing Wife Surrenders (GulfLive.com)
Drive By Shooting Outside Head Start Center (KRQE News 13)
Party Ends in Shooting, 10 Arrests in Syracuse; Gang Links Suspected (Salt Lake Tribune)
Owner Of Gun Used In Accidental Shooting Charged (WRAL.com)
Grand Jury Indicts Man in Slaying Case (Roanoke Times)
Eunice man kills daughter's estranged husband, himself (NOLA.com)
December 1, 2003

Suspects in EIU homecoming weekend shooting ordered to stand trial (Journal Gazette)
Reward Offered In Fatal Highway Shooting (NBC4 Columbus)
Allegheny Township Woman Accused Of Shooting Fiancé (WTAE-TV)
Sutherlin man killed in domestic shooting (The News Review)
Fatal Habersham shooting apparently accidental (AccessNorthGA.com)
Fight allegedly prompts man to shoot girlfriend's brother (Boston Herald

Good post, reinforces my belief that our country has been in "nurturing decay" since the 1960's. We've gone through a severe cultural change since the 1960's. Most of that change has taken parents away from raising their kids with good moral ethics and personal responsibility.

Armed citizens are a deterrent to a life of crime (hopefully) and I'm confident that America is getting back to "Family Values" that the 60's/70's culture contributed to the fleasing of America.

Curval · « **Reply #16 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:12:33 AM »

Big Jim's been drinking whiskey
Playing poker on a losing night
Pretty soon old Jim started thinking
Somebody's been cheatin and lying
So Big Jim comenced to fight him
I wouldn't tell you no lie
Big Jim done a-pulled his pistol
And shot his friend right between his eyes.

Handguns are made for killin
Ain't no good for nuthin else
So if you like to drink a-whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some old fool comes around here
And wants to shoot either you or me?

A few words from the immortal band - Lynard Skynard

AKIron · « **Reply #17 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:13:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Big Jim's been drinking whiskey
Playing poker on a losing night
Pretty soon old Jim started thinking
Somebody's been cheatin and lying
So Big Jim comenced to fight him
I wouldn't tell you no lie
Big Jim done a-pulled his pistol
And shot his friend right between his eyes.

Handguns are made for killin
Ain't no good for nuthin else
So if you like to drink a-whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some old fool comes around here
And wants to shoot either you or me?

A few words from the immortal band - Lynard Skynard

Guess they shoulda written about drinkin' and flyin' too.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:17:24 AM »

So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some old fool comes around here
And wants to shoot either you or me?

Because, then only criminals have guns. Oh, and Stalin, Hitler are in 100% agreement with the lyrics.

Curval · « **Reply #19 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:22:26 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Guess they shoulda written about drinkin' and flyin' too.

Were the band members drunk and flying? I can't find any info on it...just that the Band's plane crashed.

I didn't write the lyrics, so don't shoot the messenger.

Just repeating what a few good old boys thought about handguns.

AKIron · « **Reply #20 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:24:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Were the band members drunk and flying? I can't find any info on it...just that the Band's plane crashed.

I didn't write the lyrics, so don't shoot the messenger.

Just repeating what a few good old boys thought about handguns.

Documentary I've seen implied the pilot had been drinking. Will look it up.

beet1e · « **Reply #21 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:25:09 AM »

Dago,

Of all these people killed by guns, were they mostly career criminals, or were they just people who needed to be killed?

AKIron · « **Reply #22 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:46:53 AM »

The only reason for the crash that I can find on the net is that they miscalculated their fuel and crashed when they ran out. It's been quite a while since I saw that documentary but I'm pretty sure one of the survivors claimed the pilot had been drinking.

Toad · « **Reply #23 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:50:04 AM »

Pretty easy to avoid being killed when you break into someone's home.

Step 1: Don't break into anyone's home.

See? It's a simple one-step process.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #24 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:54:35 AM »

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lazs, you're asking him to lift his veil of hatred for the current administration/Republicans in general.. long enough to hold an intelligent conversation, this cannot be done while foaming at the mouth in hate.

Got to send this to Webster's so they can put it under the irony section.

Toad · « **Reply #25 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:55:25 AM »

Iron, IIRC, it was maryjane the pilots were using.

Long time ago though. The NTSB online database doesn't go back that far; you have to request it from them.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #26 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:58:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Pretty easy to avoid being killed when you break into someone's home.

Step 1: Don't break into anyone's home.

See? It's a simple one-step process.

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
..reinforces my belief that our country has been in "nurturing decay" since the 1960's. We've gone through a severe cultural change since the 1960's. Most of that change has taken parents away from raising their kids with good moral ethics and personal responsibility.

Maybe by adding 1 + 1, they might get it...

AKIron · « **Reply #27 on:** December 15, 2003, 12:00:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Iron, IIRC, it was maryjane the pilot's were using.

Long time ago though. The NTSB online database doesn't go back that far; you have to request it from them.

You're probably right Toad.

AKIron · « **Reply #28 on:** December 15, 2003, 12:02:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Pretty easy to avoid being killed when you break into someone's home.

Step 1: Don't break into anyone's home.

See? It's a simple one-step process.

hehe

How to not get your bellybutton kicked by the police

Toad · « **Reply #29 on:** December 15, 2003, 12:12:19 PM »

All handguns are made for killin'?

Really?

Pretty simplistic attitude, I think.

A lot of handguns are just made for fun shooting.

Oh, and there is a need for handguns that are made for killing. Just about every army has them, police forces have them....... and plain old simple citizens have a right to have them as well.

At least in the US.