What the hell is a neo-con?

[Pongo]

I certainly had no intention of a link to neo-nazi.
Sorry Ra but it has a nice ring to it I guess. Ill be more careful in future.

[straffo]

Disagree Ra, I do think Cabby was liberal before.

[FUNKED1]

Straffo is correct, it's true by Cabby's own admission.

[DmdNexus]

Originally posted by Toad
It's the new secret codeword you use when calling someone a "nazi".
The purpose is to allow you "deniability" so you can pretend you're being polite.

There you go again... making assumptions of what other people think and talking about issues you have no knowledge about.

Neo-con and nazi have completely different meanings.

For example, when I want to call someone a nazi... my allusion to this is to call them "a goose stepping brown shirt in jack boots"

You neo-con skin-headed punk!

[Saurdaukar]

NEOCONZ RUUUL!

[Sandman]

I THINK WE SHUD ELEKT RAVENSTEVE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE IS THE SHIZNIT.

Neoconservatives are pro-bombing, pro-empire Washington policy wonks (almost never with a business or military background) who have filled the vacuum on the Right, where most Americans have little interest in foreign policy and know little about foreign nations.  They dominate Republican foreign policy because they care about it, whereas most Americans don't.  They also are heavily financed by Murdock's media empire and their control of the largest conservative foundations.  If their wars leave the Republican Party in ruins after the next election, they can easily return to the Democratic Party from whence they came.  One editor explains, "Neoconservatives can trace their roots to Trotskyist anti-Stalinism."   In domestic politics they are close to European Social Democrats.

[midnight Target]

Duh!

A Neocon is the opposite of a Neopro.

Just ask me next time and save yourselves the trouble of another pointless thread.

[ra]

Originally posted by miko2d
Neoconservatives is the self-given label, not a derogatory reference to neonazis.

What it means and how it is used are two different things.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by DmdNexus
There you go again... making assumptions of what other people think and talking about issues you have no knowledge about.

Hi Mr. kettle....my name is Mr. Pot....Guess what....YOUR BLACK!

[miko2d]

ra: What it means and how it is used are two different things.

 Oh, like if a black man calls himself a "n****r", that would be OK, but if a white man uses that word, that would be offensive?

 I am not sure. I have not even seen anyone compare neo-cons with neo-nazis, just with regular nazis. When you openly proclaim the need for world dominance based on military power in order to ensure safety and survival of your own superior culture, big-government and on fooling the masses into following the elite, it's hard to escape comparison with the nazis, deserved or not

 miko

[ra]

Originally posted by miko2d
ra: What it means and how it is used are two different things.

 Oh, like if a black man calls himself a "n****r", that would be OK, but if a white man uses that word, that would be offensive?

I don't know where you're going with this.  Neo-conservative has a rather dry definition.  But the Michael Moores of this world use it as though it means something sinister.  They like the ring of the word, that's all.  They don't care what it means.  And most probably don't know what it means.

The most common political term which starts with the prefix 'neo-' is 'neo-nazi'.  So 'neo-con' is often slipped into political discussions by those who want to draw a parallel.  The words start with the same prefix, so the philosophies must be the same.  It's a common tactic used to fool neophytes.

ra

[Ozark]

What the hell is a neo-con?

The flip side of MG.

[crowMAW]

Originally posted by Toad
It's the new secret codeword you use when calling someone a "nazi".

The purpose is to allow you "deniability" so you can pretend you're being polite.

Toad is right.  Although I don't pretend to be polite...I know I'm not as good as Rude.  (Where is Rude anyway Toad...haven't seen him in a while?)

Neo-cons are about as close as you can get to an American Nationalist Party.  They believe in using US power to create world hegemony under US domination. (Hot damn I got to use that word again this year!)

To learn more and how to join goto:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

And learn about the Project for the New American Century.

HAIL THE ALMIGHTY PNAC!

[crowMAW]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
The conservative PARTY has changed much though, they lean much more left today than say, 15 years ago.  

I dunno about that Rip.  I was a Republican in the '80s because of Barry Goldwater...Mr. Conservative...the father of the conservative movement that eventually got Reagan/Bush Sr elected.

But the Republican party formed malignant tumors in its ranks in the 90s...the religious right and the Kristol neo-cons.  And it was because of them I quit the Republican party and became a Libertarian.  The Republican party changed so much that Goldwater endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for Congress in '92.  That says volumes to me about the wrong direction the Republican party has taken.

[straffo]

Originally posted by ra
I don't know where you're going with this.  Neo-conservative has a rather dry definition.  But the Michael Moores of this world use it as though it means something sinister.  They like the ring of the word, that's all.  They don't care what it means.  And most probably don't know what it means.

The most common political term which starts with the prefix 'neo-' is 'neo-nazi'.  So 'neo-con' is often slipped into political discussions by those who want to draw a parallel.  The words start with the same prefix, so the philosophies must be the same.  It's a common tactic used to fool neophytes.

ra

It's certainly YetAnotherDifference between us (aka language barrier), for me néo is just a préfix nothing like a rethorical tactic.

Exemple :
néo-classicisme or  néo-surréaliste have not a very common occurence but do exist and are not in any way  political trend.

That explain perhaps why I don't use it in the same meaning