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Offline BEVO

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« on: December 16, 2003, 04:49:05 PM »
Want to buy a cookie? If you are a white male, that'll be $1; for white females, 75 cents; blacks, 25 cents. The price structure is the message.

 
 
Through Affirmative Action Bake Sales, conservative groups on campuses across America are satirically and peacefully spotlighting the injustice of AA programs that penalize or benefit students based solely on gender and race. The cookie rebels are being slammed by such a backlash that the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) -- dreaded by many university administrators -- just shot "an opening salvo" in the rebels' defense.

Thor Halvorssen, CEO of FIRE, declared in a press release last Friday: "Parody and political satire are not illegal in this country. College administrators appear to be under the mistaken impression that protesting affirmative action is not covered by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Freedom of speech is a right enjoyed equally and fully by both supporters and opponents of affirmative action."

What are the AA bake sales, and why do they engender such furor?

The sales are intended to spark discussion, not profits. They are in the same genre as guerrilla theater -- an effective counterculture tactic usually associated with the Left -- through which societal assumptions are challenged by acting out scenarios. To the amazed query, "Are you allowed to do this?" one cookie rebel responded, "Admissions officers do it every day." By shifting the context from university policy to baked goods, the assumptions of affirmative action policies are not only challenged as sexist and racist but also revealed as nonsense.

The cookie rebels are doing the one thing political correctness cannot bear: revealing its absurdity and laughing in its face. They are not merely speaking truth to power; they are chuckling at it.

To regain the moral indignation they prize so highly, the politically correct must demonize the sale of baked goods. Thus, at Indiana University one student filed an official complaint, saying that the cookie sale would "create a climate of hostility against students of color and women and can easily turn violent." (The fact that those students were the ones given a price break didn't seem to occur to the irony-starved critic who equated a buyer's discount with a threat of violence.)

To its credit, Indiana University chose to protect the freedom of speech for both sides of the affirmative action issue; it allowed the bake sale to proceed. Other universities have made the opposite choice.

The College Republicans at the University of Washington sponsored an affirmative action bake sale on Oct. 7. CR President Jason Chambers reported, "Approximately 150 students were gathered around our booth discussing the issue [AA] by about 12:30 when our booth was attacked by leftist students who disagreed with our stance on affirmative action." The Leftists threw cookies to the ground, tore down the display and physically attacked one vendor.

When the leftists began making threats, one of the cookie rebels had called the police because he feared the discussion -- hitherto civil -- might turn violent. Chambers explained, "Unfortunately, rather than step in and arrest our attackers, the police stood by while the University said we, the peaceful ones, had to shut down because WE were creating an unsafe environment. ... Our protests that the CRs were peacefully demonstrating while the leftists got violent fell upon deaf ears."

The university allowed a handful of violent students to decide which political views could or could not be expressed on campus. This is called a "heckler's veto"; it is the last resort of those who cannot win an argument through facts or reason.

Halvorssen commented, "Subsequently, in a frightening betrayal of their fiduciary duty and their obligations to the Bill of Rights, UW's Board of Regents released an open letter condemning the College Republicans for being 'hurtful' while failing to mention the counter-demonstrators' disruption of the College Republicans' peaceful expression of their political views on a matter of pressing public concern."

The University of Washington is not alone.

-- The University of California-Irvine shut down its bake sale as discriminatory.

-- Northwestern University ordered students to cease selling cookies or face the police.

-- Southern Methodist University closed the bake sale after 45 minutes because it created an "unsafe" environment.

-- William and Mary officials -- claiming to be "shocked and appalled" -- also cut off the cookies.

Clearly, universities don't like the affirmative action bake sales. One reason: The sales, like that at Indiana University, often feature petitions "to ban the collection of racial data, particularly in the admissions and hiring processes."

But most of all, the politically correct do not like being publicly mocked and revealed as ridiculous.

FIRE is performing the valuable task of shining a bright light on the viciousness with which the PC respond to mockery. Its campaign "will include mailings to alumni, parents, university donors, and state legislators."

Meanwhile the most effective thing the rest of us can do is to keep laughing.

Boss Tweed -- that symbol of political corruption from 19th century New York -- used to rail against cartoonists who parodied him without pause. Tweed knew he could politically survive anything except being the brunt of jokes. As with Tweed, so too with AA. That's the way the cookie and policy crumble.

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 06:01:26 PM »
yet another example of hypocracy that leftists and democrats never talk about.  


Imagine that...Because of my color I get into college and a nice grant to boot....because of my color I get a discount on a cookie at a bakesale.....Time to get violent

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2003, 06:29:05 PM »
Boy do I wish they had one of those here at Michigan State.

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2003, 06:34:14 PM »
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-- The University of California-Irvine shut down its bake sale as discriminatory.


IIRC, the University of California no longer has an affirmative action program for admittance. Right?
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2003, 06:45:42 PM »
http://www.eod.uci.edu/


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The UCI Office of Equal Opportunity and Diversity (OEOD) is responsible for the University's compliance with federal and state laws and University policies and procedures regarding discrimination, retaliation and sexual harassment. OEOD works to promote and integrate the principles of equal opportunity, affirmative action, nondiscrimination, and excellence through diversity at UCI.

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2003, 07:05:29 PM »
The OEOD isn't the University of California. But... they've quoted the UofC policy:

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The University of California, in accordance with applicable Federal and State law and University policy, does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, disability, age, medical condition (cancer-related), ancestry, marital status, citizenship, sexual orientation, or status as a Vietnam-era veteran or special disabled veteran. The University also prohibits sexual harassment. This nondiscrimination policy covers admission, access, and treatment in University programs and activities.



Sounds like a good reason to shut down an affirmative action bakesale at Irvine.

That said... if the University does have an affirmative action program, it's rather hypocritical to shut down an affirmative action bakesale.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2003, 08:28:54 PM »
As usual BEVO posts a story and fails to give us the really IMPORTANT parts of the picture, but only a quick gloss-over-

Tell me, Bevo, so I may make a more informed decision-

What kinds of cookies are we talking about?

Are they soft or hard?

Where will the proceeds from this bake sale go? The Randy Weaver Defense Fund?

Can I get a discount if I buy five of them?

Other than that ll I can think of to say is "Yummm.. Cookies!"

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2003, 09:08:52 PM »
How dare they insult our system of government mandated racism/sexism.  White devils!
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2003, 09:57:21 PM »
I WANT A COOKIE!!!!!

A chocolate chip one. Fresh out of the oven, chips just solidifying yet still soft, the aroma of the cookie whafting in your nostrils and the crunchy texture of the crispy cookie in your mouth in stark contrast to the soft, semi melted chocolate chips.. man I want a cookie.

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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2003, 11:28:22 PM »
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-- The University of California-Irvine shut down its bake sale as discriminatory.


I wonder if they were going to charge the Asians extra there, since they are the majority.

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2003, 11:33:36 PM »
The ACLU is right on top of this, right? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2003, 12:17:59 AM »
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I WANT A COOKIE!!!!!

A chocolate chip one. Fresh out of the oven, chips just solidifying yet still soft, the aroma of the cookie whafting in your nostrils and the crunchy texture of the crispy cookie in your mouth in stark contrast to the soft, semi melted chocolate chips.. man I want a cookie.


One sec, lemme grab a blender real quick...  Here ya go! :p
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2003, 03:23:28 AM »
i still get all my cookies from my mom. she sells plates before christmas. same price for all. i havent paid for a cookie in years.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2003, 03:30:44 AM »
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The OEOD isn't the University of California. But... they've quoted the UofC policy:




Sounds like a good reason to shut down an affirmative action bakesale at Irvine.

That said... if the University does have an affirmative action program, it's rather hypocritical to shut down an affirmative action bakesale.


Either way this is a protest....it would be no different than if the university shut down a war protest because they think the war in iraq is justified and vis versa.  

If this were a bunch of black students charging white students less the univ would have no problem with it and no violence would result because that would be UN-PC.

I am not afraid at all to say that minority students have it made.  They can get away with starting riots....protests....they have a better chance at admissions....and if worse comes to worse they can allways play the race card.

If you think that making up for past racism in america by using rasism is good than you are a hypocrit!  The only racism I see in America today comes from minoritys!

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2003, 04:00:45 AM »
No violence would result if all the students there were PC and "enlightened."  Saw it for what it was, a protest...I've heard are common on liberal college campuses.

The universities' viewpoint is one of strictly business.  Don't know, but I would think William and Mary, and Southern Methodist especially would not welcome such a display of defiance.  That's not what these colleges are about.

You do homework at these places and don't have time to protest...at least in such a manner.

Besides, the university gets a cut from everything you sell on campus, so just having the sale on campus, no matter what it was, could require licenses and permits to be legal.  I can't imagine any respectable university issuing a permit for a bake sale that very well could damage it's reputation.




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