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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2003, 02:11:52 AM »
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You give Hussein far more credit than he deserves, IMHO.


Hussein is done. The question in my mind is who's next? Iran or Syria? These middle eastern hotbeds of terrorism are kinda like Lays potato chips.
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2003, 03:13:56 AM »
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It won't be me that tells my wife she's gonna hafta wear a burkha, I'll leave that to you.


Last time I checked, Hussein wasn't too nice to Islamic fundamentalists. Your wife could have worn what she liked in Saddam's Iraq.

Saudi Arabia however... good job we never supported that regime!
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2003, 03:34:43 AM »
@Iron; I think the invasion of Iraq wont help much against terrorism. Why? I mean if u want to buy biological or chemical weapons go to russia. If u want an education in "how to be an effective terrorist" go to Somalia or to Saudi Arabia.
So IMO GScholz has a point here. The allies have to deal with many different flavours of religion and people (Kurds, Shiites, Sunnites...). Its not like Eastern Germany where u have the people speaking with ONE voice. Its more like a mixture of Afganistan and Yugoslavia.
With this in mind I believe that Iraq will never (in the next 50 years) be ONE nation.

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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2003, 03:41:50 AM »
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Hussein is done. The question in my mind is who's next? Iran or Syria? These middle eastern hotbeds of terrorism are kinda like Lays potato chips.


Syria. My bet is that Israel gets to take care of the Iranian situation, while the US focuses on Syria. Latest reports have the Iraqi WMD's in Syria.

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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2003, 03:46:03 AM »
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Latest reports have the Iraqi WMD's in Syria.


Straight from the world reknowned Swedish intelligence think tank!

Source please.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2003, 03:54:37 AM »
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Straight from the world reknowned Swedish intelligence think tank!

Source please.


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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2003, 03:55:07 AM »
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I hope they keep it up and embarrass Annan and the rest of the appeasers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/16/international/middleeast/16CND-NATION.html?ex=1072242000&en=2aedd578f1c193c5&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE


Taking a harsh view of the inability of quarreling members of the Security Council to endorse military action in Iraq, Mr. Zebari said, "One year ago, the Security Council was divided between those who wanted to appease Saddam Hussein and those who wanted to hold him accountable.
"The United Nations as an organization failed to help rescue the Iraqi people from a murderous tyranny that lasted over 35 years, and today we are unearthing thousands of victims in horrifying testament to that failure."
He declared, "The U.N. must not fail the Iraqi people again."
It was not immediately clear how the accusatory tone of Mr. Zebari's speech affected the closed-door discussion over the United Nations' role in Iraq that followed, but Secretary General Kofi Annan, the first to emerge from the hall, appeared taken aback.
"Now is not the time to pin blame and point fingers," he told reporters. Saying that Mr. Zebari was "obviously entitled to his opinion," Mr. Annan said that the United Nations had done as much for Iraq as it could under the circumstances and was prepared to do more.


So when we going to the congo .... what is it 5 million killed in the last 3 years?

Ya that's why the US is  in Iraq..... Because we felt sorry for the poor oppressed Iraqis ...

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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2003, 03:56:21 AM »
DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources reveal that Washington and Dr. David Kay, senior US and coalition WMD hunter in Iraq - far from groping in the dark for Saddam’s prohibited weapons, as conventionally believed – have a very good idea of where they are hidden.

The search has narrowed down to a section of the Syrian Desert known as Dayr Az-Zawr in Syria’s 600 sq. mile Al Jazirah province, which is wedged between the Turkish and Iraqi borders. The missing weapons systems are thought to be buried somewhere under these desert sands. This area is now probably the most keenly watched area on earth – from its outer periphery. At its eastern edge, US special force units, Predator drones and reconnaissance airplanes and satellites make sure no one steps into this ultra-sensitive patch of desert. Turkish special forces, intelligence and air force units are guarding it from the northwest. The Syrians are nowhere to be seen, acting as though the target-area does not concern them.

DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly have consistently reported that Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction were removed from the country and secretly buried in Lebanon and northern Syria with the connivance of Syrian president Bashar Assad.

But short of tearing up hundreds of miles of sand, the American hunters have reached an impasse in their searches. What can Saddam Hussein contribute to breaking the standoff?

DEBKAfile’s intelligence experts evaluate the situation thus:

If the ex-dictator continues to prevaricate instead of giving straight answers to questions, the US president has two options:

1. To bring crushing leverage to bear on the Syrian president and force him to order his engineering corps to dig up the hiding places marked on his charts and quietly hand over the wanted weapons to the Americans. For the present, Assad is tossing off any such demands with complete nonchalance.

2. To let American military and engineering units loose on the targeted miles and burrow until the weapons are found.


That course could bring American and Syrian armies into a major collision, a development that would rock the Middle East no less than the American invasion of Iraq.

But there is a third option.

It is that Saddam hand over to his American interrogators the details of the arrangements he worked out with the Syrian president for the transfer of the weapons of mass destruction to their present hiding places. He would have to name the Iraqi and Syrian officials who handled the operation. With this information in hand, President Bush could turn the heat on Assad and demand his cooperation in locating the buried items. If Assad continued to shrug the demands aside, then the evidence against the Syrian president would be laid before the UN Security Council and an international operation mounted to bring the prohibited weapons to light.

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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2003, 04:01:24 AM »
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I guess we could just appease the terrorists like some countries have. It won't be me that tells my wife she's gonna hafta wear a burkha, I'll leave that to you.


The man said 35 years so you better read up on your history and go call the wifey and break the bad news to her.:aok

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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2003, 04:13:17 AM »
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www.debka.com


Do you have lots of salt handy?
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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2003, 04:16:37 AM »
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Do you have lots of salt handy?

Do you think you know more about this than they do? Do you think you have access to the same sources as they do?

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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2003, 04:19:33 AM »
Do you know how reliable those sources are? It's a single website on the intardnet for god's sake. Is that all you have?

BTW, do they have a astrology section?
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2003, 04:26:20 AM »
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Syria. My bet is that Israel gets to take care of the Iranian situation, while the US focuses on Syria. Latest reports have the Iraqi WMD's in Syria.


ROTFL

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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2003, 04:30:07 AM »
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Do you know how reliable those sources are? It's a single website on the intardnet for god's sake. Is that all you have?
 


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Its kinda hard to have discussions about Iraq-Al Queida connections, when all the anti-war types react with "that is just a fabrication" to whatever source one presents.
 


Your reaction would be the same no matter what kind of source I presented. Why dont you put your head back into the sand little tardling, maybe the world feels like a safer place for you then.

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2003, 04:33:46 AM »
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ROTFL

heh, just out of curiosity...

Lets see if you laugh as much if the Israelis send in some airstrike or sabotage team to that Iranian reactor. Or if you will be on these boards crying a river over teh poor Iranians and the evil Israelis.

Or lets see your reaction to the news of a US violation of the Syrian border and the subsequent conflict in Syria. My bet is you will be crying a river then too over the vile americans and the poor poor Syrian terrorists.

But hey, laugh now if it makes you feel better.