Author Topic: Return of the King (Read 2951 times)

hawker238 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2003, 03:26:38 PM »

I'm seeing it tommorow with a bunch of my friends at 3:20. Thing is, I'm getting a tooth drilled at 12:20. How long will the novocaine last? Will I drool on myself for the whole movie?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2003, 03:37:32 PM »

Mold
Fromn4n is a troll, and a poor one at that, do not listen to him.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2003, 03:38:52 PM »

hawker238
Wouldn't you end up doing that anyway? I mean drooling on yourslelf?

LOL couldnt resist.

SOB · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2003, 04:21:16 PM »

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christ, you're kidding--they get married? LOL. unbelievable. ok, my expectations are lowered a bit. WTF is wrong with hollywood movies, that the endings almost *always* blow goats...

LOL, I think think "boston" should have tipped you off that he wasn't serious.

mold · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2003, 05:24:46 PM »

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LOL, I think think "boston" should have tipped you off that he wasn't serious.

Seriously, it's well within the realm of possibility, Boston included. LOL. You just can't overestimate cheeziness, when it comes to movies.

Shuckins · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2003, 09:03:50 PM »

The first movie of the trilogy remains my favorite. For me, it literally made the epic come alive. The Two Towers was a bit of a disappointment because in several places it departed, quite unnecessarily, from the original story line. The Return of the King was better. The only real gripe I have about it was that Frodo and Sam spent way too much time shouting at each other about Gollum. Frodo tossing Sam out on his ear didn't work very well either.

Despite the length of these films, I felt that there was a lack of development of certain characters. Eomer, especially, was almost a non-entity.

One of the best and most heroic scenes in the book is the clash between Eowyn and the Witch King. It was ably translated to film by producer Peter Jackson. Perhaps it could have been improved upon, but not bad nevertheless. "...and she raised her shield against the horror of her enemy's eyes."

Shuckins · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2003, 09:03:51 PM »

The first movie of the trilogy remains my favorite. For me, it literally made the epic come alive. The Two Towers was a bit of a disappointment because in several places it departed, quite unnecessarily, from the original story line. The Return of the King was better. The only real gripe I have about it was that Frodo and Sam spent way too much time shouting at each other about Gollum. Frodo tossing Sam out on his ear didn't work very well either.

Despite the length of these films, I felt that there was a lack of development of certain characters. Eomer, especially, was almost a non-entity.

One of the best and most heroic scenes in the book is the clash between Eowyn and the Witch King. It was ably translated to film by producer Peter Jackson. Perhaps it could have been improved upon, but not bad nevertheless. "...and she raised her shield against the horror of her enemy's eyes."

Engine · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2003, 09:24:00 PM »

Peter Jackson is a butchering pig****ing *******.

mold · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2003, 09:59:23 PM »

Yeah, that might be true. Wish they had chosen another director for this epic masterpiece. So many good names out there...D Lynch, R Scott, F Coppola....

Doesn't Jackson specialize in horror movies or something?

mold · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2003, 10:05:19 PM »

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One of the best and most heroic scenes in the book is the clash between Eowyn and the Witch King.

I think prolly the most heroic scene is when Sam kicks bellybutton at the end of book 2. "Now come, you filth!" Wonder if that's done good on film. Well anyway I'll see it this weekend.

Naso · « **Reply #25 on:** December 19, 2003, 03:42:21 AM »

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Originally posted by mold
Yeah, that might be true. Wish they had chosen another director for this epic masterpiece. So many good names out there...D Lynch, R Scott, F Coppola....

Doesn't Jackson specialize in horror movies or something?

This movies are Jackson's project, discarded by Miramax, and passed to Newline cinema.

It's a New Zealand movie, not an Holliwood one.

The only suitable director is the "almost writer/media translator" : Peter Jackson.

It's not perfect, but is a damned good work.

For a better vision, and a more complete adherence, buy the dvd extended editions.

And watch the extras, he eplain a lot of choises.

SunTracker · « **Reply #26 on:** December 19, 2003, 04:11:23 AM »

I got bored after 30 minutes watching the first two LOTR movies.

mold · « **Reply #27 on:** December 19, 2003, 09:15:49 AM »

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It's not perfect, but is a damned good work.

Yeah, but it has more basic problems I think. I'm not talking about the adherence to the book...it has problems when you look at it as a standalone movie. E.g. over-melodramatic situations and dialogue, comic relief, bits and pieces meaninglessly thrown in from the books. Some of it was very well executed (casting and costumes and "visual atmosphere" come to mind). But some of it was not. A director known for better execution may have done a better job at the basics.

RightF00T · « **Reply #28 on:** December 19, 2003, 11:43:08 AM »

Who the hell was the Retarded/Burn Victim Orc that led the attack on Gondor. Its been a while since I've read the Trilogy(6 months).

*Semi-Spoiler*

The Oliphants and the Nazgul attack on retreat of Faramir was completely out of this world. As a matter of fact, anything with the Winged Creatures was worth the price of admission especially the Nazgul vs. Eagles.

Pongo · « **Reply #29 on:** December 19, 2003, 12:17:05 PM »

As a long time tolkien geek i have to say. The movie accompishes so much, but the writers let their pride lead them astray. Of all the things they added only the oliphant scene worked.
The orc landing craft,
Denathors 1km flaming run,
arwen dieing if the ring isnt destroyed,
arwen turning back from the grey havens because of a vision of her child,
aragorns doubt about wanting to be king,
doppy the big orc leader,
sneaking up to light the beacon,
the counter attack to take osgiliath back

Parts that they left as close as possible amazed me. I would have never thought you could film the captivity of Frodo so accuratly and easily. I couldnt imagine how they would make that whole section in mordor. But he pulled it off increadably well.

The battle of the pellenor fields was increadable. Why they changed the timeing so that there was no confrontation between the witch king and Gandalf and there for allowing the bad guys into the city is beyond me as well.

In the time they showed the stupid fires of gondor going to rohan and arwens biological clock ticking they could have included the scouring of the shire. The book with out the scouring of the shire is a different story.

Why it was neccessary to rewrite aragorn as a hesitent man who didnt want to be king is totally beyond me. Its like if the master and commander screen play had Jack Aubery be a hesitent man who didnt want to be captain..