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Offline Jackal1

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« on: December 20, 2003, 01:23:03 AM »
Think about it. For the old hands to the flight sim world , when we used to fly the old ones with the graphics that looked like something that came from a Sunday paper cartoon section and and moved at the speed of grass growing, who would have ever THUNK it?
  Makes you wonder if it`s got this good so far..............what is yet to come?
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2003, 06:38:23 PM »
Aol with AW on a 486/dx33 was like watching the grass grow, but its all we had back then..

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2003, 08:05:28 PM »
Your kidding.....right?

AH looks and plays just like it did 4 years ago.  Most of its features were established in beta and havent been expanded to any worthwhile degree in the past 3 years.

AH2 just doesnt look different enough to even mention and the additions will be past due by at least a year once they are released as the replacement for AH1.

ToD will be the hinge but even that seems on hold while AH2 is birthed.

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2003, 12:00:28 AM »
Jackal, did u try ''Forgotten Battles""?
    flight model it's much closer to reality,  in AH most of german planes are too far from reality, specialy Fw190s, ta 152   ,
   In FB, if u get hit in the wing, u can see holes, AH damage & flight model it's cheap
    if AH would have the quality of FB, 50-75% of players must get new comp, video card,
  [ play Ah for chat, lot of players, FB does;t have more than 20-30 players /room

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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2003, 12:54:39 AM »
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Aol with AW on a 486/dx33 was like watching the grass grow, but its all we had back then..


:rofl :rofl :rofl   I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS!!!  Same PC.  Same version of AW.

I was so fortunate to have found AW while goofing around on AOL one night so long ago.

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2003, 01:20:32 AM »
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I was so fortunate to have found AW while goofing around on AOL one night so long ago.

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That's how I stumbled upon AH. Google search for 'flight sim':)

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2003, 01:39:37 AM »
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Your kidding.....right?

AH looks and plays just like it did 4 years ago.  

AH2 just doesnt look different enough to even mention ....



If your experiences start only 4 years ago and only in AH then you're going to be lost in this thread, friend. :D

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2003, 01:54:57 AM »
I do not understand just one simple point?

What does graphics make you?
I have flown WB 2.77(non 3d and 3d), WB III, AH. And belive me I do not want to see perfect graphics. That is not the thin that makes feeling of reality, but your imagination.

IMO AHII would be better with old graphics engine and ToD. There are so many feachers that I'd like to be supported before good graphics engine: More planes - from early up to late war for SEA. More complex life rules support for CMs, etc.. -  more different gameplay feachers.

So why you stuck in graphics? I'd like to see HTC develop other feachers of AH before graphics engine - I'd like to play my money for better gameplay and not better explosions or hi res skins (that anyway I almost do not see in combat).

The rest my imagination can fill.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2003, 02:02:39 AM »
Yeag's been flight simming a looooooooonnnnnng time.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2003, 07:35:57 AM »
What Artik said.

Improving the quality of a book's paper does nothing to improve the quality of what's written upon it.

There's been no development in AH for far, far too long. Even something as relatively simple as a review of ENY/perk values would go a long way to dispell the feeling that HTC have simply lost interest in AH.

AHII may be great, or not. I don't really care at the moment; I'm not an AHII customer.

I am, however, an AHI customer; and I'd like to see some attention paid to that.

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2003, 09:15:21 AM »
I've been of that same mind since before Aces High came about, as well. The constant push of valuable resources to make eye-candy a little sweeter has just about reached the overkill mark. The benefit seldom equals the liability of forcing players to double their sys specs (or even just buy the latest greatest video card) to play the game.

A more rounded out planeset that allows for greater flexability when it comes to historical settings and a different style of game that promotes more of an immersive enviroment somewhat akin to the experiences of the pilots of the era are what many players despirately crave (and it would provide more of a draw for new players).

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2003, 10:06:45 AM »
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Originally posted by artik
What does graphics make you?

I have a few friends that WANT to see the leaves on trees in a flt
sim. I keep telling them "You don't watch the trees in a furball
unless you're REAL low" Some people.   :rolleyes:

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2003, 10:07:08 AM »
Sorry system kept showing the preview msg and didn't take me
back to this thread.

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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2003, 10:53:52 AM »
Artik, Seeker, even Arlo......

AMEN!

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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2003, 11:45:33 AM »
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I have a few friends that WANT to see the leaves on trees in a flt
sim. I keep telling them "You don't watch the trees in a furball
unless you're REAL low" Some people.   :rolleyes:

SCDR

The question is following if HTC will get more clients with leaves on trees (and I do not think AH will get to this level of graphics) or will loose much more clients on PC update - and it will loose a lot.

So To redisign graphics or not to redisign?

I presonally afraid that HTC will make the same mistake that iEN made.

I left WB because of gameplay and not because of graphics.

IMO they should make two parts of the program graphics engine and gameplay - like WB had in 2d and 3d versions. They should develop ToD, FM, Damage Model before they do graphics - or to do it in paralel.
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