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Offline Toad

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« on: December 20, 2003, 09:00:07 AM »
This is kinda confusing.

Libya to dismantle WMD programs

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Libya's nuclear weapons program was "much further advanced" than U.S. and British intelligence had thought, and included centrifuges and a uranium enrichment program, all necessary components in making a nuclear bomb, a senior administration official said Friday. (Full story)

Hans Blix, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector, said Saturday Libya's decision to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction, is "welcome" and surmised the action might have been spurred by Gadhafi's fear over "what he saw happen in Iraq." (Full story)

"I think we have to learn what did they (Libya) have. They say that they will adhere to the Non-Proliferation Treaty for nuclear weapons. They are already party to that treaty and they have had inspections for years," said Blix, interviewed in Sweden.


How did the Libyan nuke program get so "advanced" if under the UN Non-Proliferation treaty "they have had inspections for years"?

I mean, you can't do stuff like that if you're being inspected right? No way, no how. The inspectors would easily find it, right?

And Blix saying the action might have been spurred by Gadhafi's fear over "what he saw happen in Iraq."?

Does this mean Bliz is a neo-con now? Has he been given the old Vulcan mind control grip or whatever by the present Administration?

Boy, this is all so confusing.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2003, 09:31:27 AM »
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Does this mean Bliz is a neo-con now? Has he been given the old Vulcan mind control grip or whatever by the present Administration?


I think he reports what he sees thats all, no bias whatsoever... funny thing eh?

Edit: By the way, how wrong was he about Iraq anyway?
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2003, 02:01:30 PM »
Iraq? We don't know yet.

It's clear the UN inspectors were REALLY wrong about Libya though.

Of course, that makes them more credible in your eyes, I guess.

Totally wrong about Libya = Completely right about Iraq?
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2003, 07:11:30 PM »
Toad, Toad, Toad.

Don't you know that the UN can NEVER be wrong. They are the true salvation of the  world!!!!
















DAMN!!! those little white pills are STRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought St Josephs Asperin was weaker than that!   :p :lol
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2003, 08:45:53 PM »
LOL Toad, its because the UN is very efficient of inspections, to the point of getting its palms greesed while cheerfully looking the other way!
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2003, 01:57:45 AM »
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That's a rather harsh accusation. Do you have anything to back it up with?


As is the accusation that Iraq does not or did not possess WMD's before the current war, and that the Bush Administration in concert with Britain's Tony Blair made it all up.....


That door swings both ways GScholz

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2003, 02:06:45 AM »
and proving you didnt make it all up is easy.  odd that it hasent happend.     thus it is now a safe accusation.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2003, 02:08:37 AM »
:rofl

Libya got away with it for years.. while being inspected. Wonder how long it'd take to find 'em in Libya if they didn't volunteer the info.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2003, 02:37:22 AM »
So what are you Bush haters drowning your dissapointment and outrage in after this horrible week? Whiskey? Vodka? Tequila? Its been a terrible week hasnt it? The economy is strong, the Dow is rocketing past 10,000, Saddam is captured,Gadhaffi has voluntarilly renounced his WMD programs and even your favorite anti-war UN offical the very king of miraculous UN inspections admits that he thinks this is the result of evil unceccesary unwise US policies...  Awww heck, whats a good ole USA hater to do? Where were we, oh yes I remember.. Just Beer perhaps? Or Gin?

Whatever you chose my friends, please remember to drink responsibly ....
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2003, 02:55:56 AM »
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Does this mean Bliz is a neo-con now? Has he been given the old Vulcan mind control grip or whatever by the present Administration?

Boy, this is all so confusing. ]


Are you talking about a Spock?


Makes about as much sense as your (sarcastic) comment. :D . What goes around comes around.

I mean, it couldn't be that Blix is an intelligent being who understands (like any reasonable person would do) threats?

Even Khadafi got it. Is Khadafi a neocon coz he got the message?

C'mon Toad - your sarcastic posts are usually WAY more subtle than this. You're slipping, just like Grünherz. I saw a post by him where he didn't mention Eurorutabagas despite saying "leftists" and "socialists".

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2003, 09:27:21 AM »
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... where's the evidence?


I haven't seen any so far. It could be that Rip has made a baseless charge at this point. Of course, they now have the big cheese in custody so you never can tell. I think the next 6 months or so may provide a few suprises. But at this point, it's a statement with nothing to back it up.

Thank Cod no one on the anti-American side uses that tactic.  :p
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2003, 09:35:06 AM »
Santa, even you have to admit the "I'll never say a good thing about Amreeeka" faction has been pretty silent on the Libyan rollover.

I think you're right; Moammar's not as stupid as he looks. I think he figured out his was on the wrong side of the line for himself and his people. Took a while, but hey, he never was the brightest bulb... progress at last?

I've said I won't support Bush if they don't find WMD and now that they have Big Mustache, they've got no excuses. They get more time to break him; that's a reasonable consideration. But in the end, they have THE guy they accused of having WMD. They better produce now; you don't take this nation to war against another sovereign nation and then say "oopsie".


That being said, I think this rollover is linked to the Iraq invasion to some degree. I think any reasonable person would agree with that. I think any reasonable person would think this is a good thing. There's always the possibilty they made an incredbly huge error; that hasn't been proven to my satisfaction as yet. But it appears some good may have come out of it.


But it's pretty hard to find any of the "deth to amreeka" crowd that will admit it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2003, 09:54:19 AM »
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When did I accuse the current administration or PM Blair of that? No, that door only swings one way in this case. The US&UK accused Iraq of having banned weapons. Ripsnort accuses the UN for taking bribes to "look the other way" ... where's the evidence?



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What evidence? They didn't have any evidence.


You state above clearly that they (Bush administration) had no evidence to support the war on Iraq.  Which can clearly conclude you think they made the whole thing up to justify the war.


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First of all I wasn't asking you, and second I've never claimed they fabricated anything. I've always claimed they didn't HAVE any evidence. Prove me wrong.


I am looking at your first post, and trying to understand how it is you can justify this second quote?
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2003, 09:56:06 AM »
Gsholtz, the "evididence" is the fact that the UN was skimming off of the Oil for Food program.  Or does that not count?
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2003, 01:53:17 PM »
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Santa, even you have to admit the "I'll never say a good thing about Amreeeka" faction has been pretty silent on the Libyan rollover.


Well, I can't speak for others. I can onyl say that I'm enjoying the side effect of the war very much. it's nice to see dictators and tyrants grovel outta fear :D

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I think you're right; Moammar's not as stupid as he looks. I think he figured out his was on the wrong side of the line for himself and his people. Took a while, but hey, he never was the brightest bulb... progress at last?


Yeah. I think seeing one of the more powerful men in the arab world looking like the UNA-bomber made him go "wait a minute.....mebbe there's something here I need to relate to..." :)

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I've said I won't support Bush if they don't find WMD and now that they have Big Mustache, they've got no excuses. They get more time to break him; that's a reasonable consideration. But in the end, they have THE guy they accused of having WMD. They better produce now; you don't take this nation to war against another sovereign nation and then say "oopsie".



You and I are then in the same camp! O let's go fight some Eurowus...ehm...some tards.

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That being said, I think this rollover is linked to the Iraq invasion to some degree. I think any reasonable person would agree with that. I think any reasonable person would think this is a good thing. There's always the possibilty they made an incredbly huge error; that hasn't been proven to my satisfaction as yet. But it appears some good may have come out of it.


Couldn't agree more. And it's a fantastic feeling to know that those bastards are getting worried. Now THAT is the boot of freedom tapping on the door.


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But it's pretty hard to find any of the "deth to amreeka" crowd that will admit it. [/B]


Well, I will. And I am a furriner.

DETH to AMREEKA!

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