So Typical of Enviromental Wacos

[Gunslinger]

They want clean power but not at the expense of the pretty little animals.  JEESH somone tell these people about compromise.  

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106438,00.html

[ra]

You'd think there'd be a way to paint a wind turbine blade in some pattern that would cause birds to avoid flying near them.  Sort of like the way people use plastic owls to discourage birds from nesting nearby.  Maybe paint a large sillouette of a diving falcon on each blade.

This just doesn't seem like an insurmountable problem.

[midnight Target]

So what if the proposed study shows that the raptor and owl population would be significantly lowered? This would lead to a catastrophic increase in the rodent population and resultant deseases.

Then what?

 You guys are always too quick to jump on the "environmental wacko" bandwagon.

[Nakhui]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
They want clean power but not at the expense of the pretty little animals.  

One would think that KFC could step in turn dead birds into finger licking good!

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nakhui
One would think that KFC could step in turn dead birds into finger licking good!

LMAO.....then we'd have more PETA idiots saying they were fried at too High of a temprature and that is wrong.

[JB73]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
LMAO.....then we'd have more PETA idiots saying they were fried at too High of a temprature and that is wrong.

no .. like in the other thread.. they'd acuse KFC of "killing" the dead birds.

[icemaw]

It wont be long before evolution breeds birds that can avoid 10 story tall gigantic white spinning turbine blades.

[capt. apathy]

So what if the proposed study shows that the raptor and owl population would be significantly lowered? This would lead to a catastrophic increase in the rodent population and resultant deseases.

Then what?

well, then likely increase, providing more food for raptors and owls,  increasing their reproductive rates,  putting more into the population. of course many of these would continue to be killed but with a higher birth rate, and a cause of death that is easily avoidable through learned behaviour,  eventually the numbers would ballance back out and we would have owl and raptor populations that have (through the improved chances of survival by those who avoid windmills) adapted to their new environment.

evolve or perish

[miko2d]

I heard those wind turbines produce ungodly noise. Is that true?

 miko

[midnight Target]

Reproductive rates are slow for predatory birds. More likely that the population would decline to the point of collapse.

(For example the DDT problem with Bald Eagles - required severe intervention)

[capt. apathy]

however a bird can not adapt it's behavior to avoid polution, also ddt caused the eggs to have thin shells (Among other problems)  the ddt problems where felt primarily in the reproduction of the birds an dsurvivability of hatchlings, which didn't give them a fighting chance at adapting.

however a physical danger targets adult birds, and can be eaily avoided, by just avoiding the areas around them.  most animals will learn to avoid an area that is littered with the bodys of their relitives.

for example, deer in an area that has been hunted avoid people, they even learn to adapt to our hunting seasons. (how many times have you hunters seen deer everywhere, and then on the opening day of hunting season you see none?)  while deer in areas where hunting is banned or that have little or no human presence are extreamly comfortable around people.

[midnight Target]

Well Apathy, you almost sucked me into this silly argument, however my point remains the same. We don't know if the windmills will cause a serious raptor decline or not. A study is warranted, and the simple truth is that those who noted the need for a study are NOT wackos.

[GRUNHERZ]

Burn the evil bird killing towers!!!!

[Gunslinger]

Sorry Mt,

I call all environmentalists Wackos.  It's just habbit.  Yes a study is warented but it just seems to me that ALMOST everyone uses electricity but not many are willing to pay the costs for it.  

Cant build nuke plants cause no one wants a melt down in there back yard.  Coal/oil cause air polution.  

Windmills (the green alternative) now kills birds.  Not to mention people who have property dont want these things around cause it may effect there property value.

God forbid I offend the environmentalists by calling them wackos but I think it is wacky that a clean form of energy is not animal friendly  What about the suiokorito tribes that feel wind is produced by their sacred gods and we are now offending them by harnessing power that is not ours?

Ok made that up but it still fits

[Duedel]

Shouldnt it be Wacko instead of Waco?
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