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Offline nopoop

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« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2003, 11:58:18 PM »
Kegger you should consider another game. Obviously from what you posted your main concern is graphics. That's all well and good. In graphics you can obviously do better as you have pointed out.

This wittle nich of flightsim junkies are here because of the game, the engine, and the way it runs.

If graphics were the main concern to those here, we'd have moved on awhile ago.

Oh look at how pretty it is is not the endall here.

It's the game, the features and the fun.

Cutting edge graphics would eliminate 2/3's of the current attendence.

Take your hot rod, go off and find some game that's pretty and tell yourself your having fun.

The alternative is staying here, getting your bellybutton handed to you long enough until you learn.

I know what I'd do.
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« Reply #61 on: December 30, 2003, 12:28:46 AM »
yet another shoe






for him to poop on :D

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« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2003, 10:42:25 AM »
Been getting some serious WB2 to WB3 de ja vu.  Just hate to see today's game go downhill/stagnant while they are working on next year's.

I have no idea of what the AH2 schedule is, but I am guessing quite some time off yet.  In the meantime it is my hope they will consider throwing us a bone in AH1.  (It is not difficult to imagine already finished/almost finished planes for AH1 gathering dust on the HTC harddrives right now.)

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« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2003, 12:19:07 PM »
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Dear HTC:

I remember from the very beginning earliest days flying your game.  I hated it.     I went to Warbirds for a long while, I tried your game again here and there until finally - boom!@  hey this is cool!.   I have enjoyed very much Ace High, probably too much if you ask any one else around me in real life.

I am worried though.  And many are not sure where the impetus for AH2 came from in the first place.   A good number of us are pretty happy with the AH world "as is" and I dare say, to a man,  we are more impressed,  and were looking forward to,  aircraft additions.  I am probably wrong, but I bet you a pile more people are more concerned with when will we have a KI-84 or a P-61 than how many leaves the next tree has.

AH2 is the future, no doubt.  It looks promising, it looks wonderfull.  Frankly though, who asked for it?   On the develpoment side I imagine it is real easy to get bored, but please look outside for a moment and appreciate what you already have.

Respectfully,

Bill Coggin



Crowd: Whine, whine, whine, AH1 looks outdated we want better graphics!

HTC: Ok, we will develop AH2, but it might take a while.

Crowd: Yeah! *cheers* Thank you HTC!

Time passes.

Crowd: Whine, whine, whine, we want more planes! Who wanted this AH2 crap anyway?


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« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2003, 01:22:09 PM »
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I am ok with how the graphics look now, I would just like to see some new features, and some new aircraft.  



nopoop and arlo take the time to read and understand a post before responding. Exit foot here ---->

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« Reply #65 on: December 30, 2003, 02:32:45 PM »
Honestly, I just hope they don't start losing the main subscribers to the game for the lack of updates to AH1 and changing the game they love so much in AH2.  If you start losing the "regulars" this game will spiral downward because noone wants to play a game with 300 bases on a map with only 15 players on a team.  I looked at WWII online once..  there were only like 45 people on the whole thing total.  Who wants to play that?  I honestly think you will attract more new players with huge furballs and more players online than you would with outstanding graphics and 50 folks aimlessly wandering huge maps and porking strats because there is simply nothing else to do.

Its HTC's decision, but lets be honest, they aren't replying to this, and we all know from experience that they aren't going to... So, all we as subscribers can do is know that they are carrying out the plan they set in motion and if we don't like how it turns out, quit paying your $15 a month and find a new hobby :)   Belaboring this issue will get you nothing but heartburn, because they have invested waaaayy too much on AH2 to scrap it now... its going to roll whether we like it or not, all we can do is hope that enough folks like it to keep the player base alive  :aok

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« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2003, 03:58:23 PM »
Why does AH1 need changes or updates?  It looks fine to me.  Let them work on AH2.  For people asking for all kinds of new planes to be added...well, we have quite a few planes available now.  I only see a couple being flown though.  How many people here fly P40s?  109Es?  205s?

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« Reply #67 on: December 30, 2003, 04:13:03 PM »
Wake up and smell the coffee guys.

AH needs a freshen up. The MA doesn't cut it anymore, its BORING.

Every day I see more and more AH guys trying out WW2OL. Why do you think that is?

HTC is taking a step in the right direction. The $$$ are not with a couple of crusty old farts who can't be bothered upgrading their Pentium II 450's. I for one eagerly await the arrival of the new graphics system, and really really look forward to a campaign/career style arena with historical matchups.

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« Reply #68 on: December 30, 2003, 04:22:22 PM »
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It's a good model on how to market a MMOG to the masses beyond the hardcore gamer, other than that don't think HT can really learn anything from EQ.



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Sure they can.  No perks unless there were six of you flying together.

No perks at all if you kill a aircraft that's not bigger, faster, and piloted by a better driver than you.

No perks unless you join a squadron.

I played EQ much too long after I decided I hated it.  Verant spends all it's available free time deciding HOW they want people to play, and if you don't play THEIR way you go nowhere.  It's social engineering at its worst, because if they can FORCE you to work in groups then you're more likely to pay just to chat with your friends.  I was a solo player, so EthernalQuest is a much better compromise for me.  Free, and I can play it any way I want.

There's a HUGE lesson for HTC, IMHO.  Don't start trying to force the style of gameplay.  Pisses people like me off, but it apparently makes millions for Sony.

BTW, I was an EQ beta tester.  They offered my MacBeta, but by then I hated it.  By the time they offered my SWG beta I hated Verant.
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« Reply #69 on: December 30, 2003, 04:31:07 PM »
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There's a HUGE lesson for HTC, IMHO.  Don't start trying to force the style of gameplay.  Pisses people like me off, but it apparently makes millions for Sony.

BTW, I was an EQ beta tester.  They offered my MacBeta, but by then I hated it.  By the time they offered my SWG beta I hated Verant.


Big Difference here, you have a choice there still will be the Main Arena along with the others arenas we have today with the addition of the (NEW) Tour Of Duty arena,  no forced gameplay just MORE choices.
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« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2003, 04:47:01 PM »
I wasn't suggesting HTC was trying to dictate gameplay; so far I've seen him going out of his way NOT to, in fact.

AHII looks nice, has some great features, and knocks my frame rate to less than half.  Can't wait to see what they do with it.
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« Reply #71 on: December 30, 2003, 05:10:08 PM »
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...but it apparently makes millions for Sony.

 



And without people like you paying for our games I could never have afforded my new house and new car, thanks!




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« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2003, 05:13:32 PM »
My pleasure!  Glad it got used for something useful  :D
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« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2003, 05:59:42 PM »
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.... arlo take the time to read and understand a post before responding. Exit foot here ---->


I read it. Twice. It wasn't very well written and you seemed confused. I asked you,"Do you see the problem as poor graphics in AHII or do you like the graphics just fine as is and just want to see more features and aircraft?"

Now you've cut out the first part ... which is what you should have done to begin with. Very good, your post now makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up. It's all I was askin'. Carry on.

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« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2003, 06:54:31 PM »
Arlo,

Your a Terd...enough said...:rofl


Why Skuzzy doesn't ban you is beyond me.

Maybe English isn't his first language you Corn-Fed jerkoff.:aok
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