Flying tips for the Typhoon and P-47 series..

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Widewing
Ah, no... A P-51B can hang with the La-7, and the La-7 eats Jugs for breakfast. If you get a P-47 so slow that you are depending upon out-turning anything, you've already screwed the pooch. You need to be flying the angles and avoid turning with anything more agile than a B-26. Otherwise, you're playing to the Jugs weakness, not its strengths.

My regards,

Widewing

All very true, LA7's are my favourite 1 v 1 encounter when in the B Pony.



...-Gixer

[hogenbor]

Once climbed up to 30.000 ft to catch a D-30 Jug with my P-51B.

The guy I fought was bitterly disappointed that I could easily catch him and outturn him at that altitude.

A good trick in a Typh or P-47 is to use your speed to zoom up and reverse quickly. With that forward armament pursuers are often intimidated/shot down. Been caught by that many, many times no matter how hard I tried to avoid.

It's true that a low slow Typh can force an overshoot quickly but again I have only been at the receiving end of that.

[Flyboy]

Originally posted by hogenbor
Once climbed up to 30.000 ft to catch a D-30 Jug with my P-51B.

The guy I fought was bitterly disappointed that I could easily catch him and outturn him at that altitude.

A good trick in a Typh or P-47 is to use your speed to zoom up and reverse quickly. With that forward armament pursuers are often intimidated/shot down. Been caught by that many, many times no matter how hard I tried to avoid.

It's true that a low slow Typh can force an overshoot quickly but again I have only been at the receiving end of that.

the D30 jug is only good for jaboing IMO

if you want A2A fly the D11 it CAN turn inside a 51 and an La7

[frank3]

Well, as mentioned before, stay high and fast, try making high speed dives on lower enemy's.
P-47 loves alt, so you'll have the advantage at high alts dogfights (Just don't turn much, it's speed will drop dramatically!

You'll have the advantage in fire power, sometimes headons will be a good option

[Hap]

asking what's the best dogfighting jug is sorta similar to asking what's the best toothbrush to use to paint a battleship.  it's just the wrong tool for the job.  i fly the jug alot myself and love it.  also have many 1 v 1 kills v 190s who i lured into a turnfight too.

i usu load up the jug with 3-500 lbers and the smallest gun package, the 6-50's with 267 rounds per gun.  i do that because the real damage i'm going to do is via the bombs.

i've found the smallest gun package to pack pleny of bullets to shoot down as many cons as i'd care to.  where it runs low is if i deack.  after getting all them down, then i'm running low.  sometimes, i'll pack the 6-50's with 425 or the 8-50's with 267.

if i were to up a jug looking for scalps, i'd prob take the 11 50% fuel dt and the small gun package for sure.  much lighter.  climbs great.  and people think you don't know what you're doing if you fly one too (which may be the case in my case )

hap1

[frank3]

I don't see why the jug has the option to load 6 x the .50's since it's advantage has to be it's firepower. You'd better fly the mustang if you load the 6 machine guns

[_Schadenfreude_]

Take the D30 option with 50% fuel and 1 drop tank, use the 6 x 50 guns with the higher ammo load.

Absolutely awesome bird - good at high speed, good guns, lots of ammo, climbs well - does everything you could want.....and if those pesky 205's come after you sucker them into a vertical 400mph dive towards the ground then watch them lawndart as you zoom back to 10k cackling insanely to yourself!!

[bozon]

no point in taking only 6 0.5. the difference in weight isn't very important. the fuel condition will be much more important.

the bigest p-47 problem is that it's too slow to escape the hords. if there's a p51 or an La7 or a 190D9 or a 109G10 (meaning always) you can't escape and the spits will eat ya.

1 on 1 with all the speedsters you can handle pretty well if you can lure them into a stall contest. spits and niks you can outrun, but you can't accelerate fast enough if you are slow (even in a dive, despite the legend...).

try to find some of Drex's films in the p-47. the guy really know how to work it.
I have a few p-47 films that can demonstrate some tricks:
http://fire.prohosting.com/bozon/

Bozon