Author Topic: Fw-190F8/U1 (Read 1722 times)

RRAM · « **on:** December 30, 2003, 06:07:53 PM »

Some time ago there was debate about wether the F8/U1 was a long range jabo able to take wing drop tanks, or a trainer. The standard 190 trainer was the S, however, there may have been a mixing on denominations and maybe there were both.

in any case here you go in the same pack, gentlemen...a Fw190S-8 trainer, and a couple of Fw190F8/U1s with drop tanks on their wing racks (racks also able to lift 250kg bombs).

ra · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2003, 06:54:16 PM »

RRAM · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2003, 06:59:55 PM »

just in case, and seeing your answer, RA, I'm not putting this to enforce any point of introducing anything into Aces High.

I set this up both because I recall someone saying there was no picture of a Fw190F8 carrying anything on their wing other that 50kg bombs or rockets, and to solve the "training Fw190" debate.

So feel free to comment...N/M sounds a bit sad

. If you have something to add, please do it. (And if you really had nothing to say, why did you post that in the first place?)

ra · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2003, 07:46:39 PM »

I know some versions of the 190 could carry fuel tanks or large bombs on the wing, I'm just not convinced the 190F8/U1 was one of them.

ra

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2003, 12:30:55 PM »

the photo identifies one of the planes with tanks as a 190F8/U1

if i read the french correctly.

do i?

RRAM · « **Reply #5 on:** January 01, 2004, 12:31:41 AM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
the photo identifies one of the planes with tanks as a 190F8/U1

if i read the french correctly.

do i?

you do. In fact the photo identifies both of the planes with wing tanks as 190F8/U1

Karnak · « **Reply #6 on:** January 01, 2004, 02:58:50 AM »

Hmmm. I thought it was solidly established that the Fw190F-8 had a very large number of loadouts, however, looking at my source I can find nothing that looks like a fuel loadout under the wings.

This line I am unsure of, maybe a Fw190 expert can tell me what it means:

R16: BT 700 system with ECT 501 for 2xBT 400 wings (Fw190F-8 and F-9)

Other than that possiblity it seems to me that those photos may be Fw190Gs mislabeled as Fw190F-8s. They certainly appear to match the fuel systems pictured on the Fw190Gs in my book.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #7 on:** January 01, 2004, 04:10:43 AM »

The one pictured on the left is definitely an 8 series FW190A/F. The one on the right may not be.

Karnak · « **Reply #8 on:** January 01, 2004, 05:35:36 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
The one pictured on the left is definitely an 8 series FW190A/F. The one on the right may not be.

My Fw190 book does describe Fw190A-5s with wing tanks.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2004, 06:03:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
My Fw190 book does describe Fw190A-5s with wing tanks.

The pitot tube is on the outer wing so it is definitely an 8 series. It most likely not a G8 because it apparently has cowl guns. G8 had the late style MG131 upper cowl piece but the guns were removed and faired over.

Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2004, 02:00:56 PM »

Grunherz,

What equipment does this line describe?

R16: BT 700 system with ECT 501 for 2xBT 400 wings (Fw190F-8 and F-9)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #11 on:** January 01, 2004, 06:47:43 PM »

Torpedoes.

senna · « **Reply #12 on:** January 01, 2004, 07:32:08 PM »

These do look like G models to me. Some history.

G1, long range fighter bomber based on the A4 airframe. Build by Arado and Fiesler. The G1 had provisions for a centerling and wing fuel tanks (wing tanks adapted from ju-87 tanks). Only 49 were built.

G2, identica to the G1 except it was based on the longer A5 airframe (extended engine root area).

G3, went into production in 43. Standard equipment included a PKS 11 directional control system (navigation). Focke Wulf designed bomb racks and external fuel tanks and provision for robot camera.

G4, G5, G6, G7 were projects only.

G8 was based on the A8 and had most of the modifications found on the G3. Additionall differences were that it had MW50 (on A8) replaced with a 25 gallon fuel tank as standard. Relocation of the ETC 501 racks forward. Production stoped in 44 and further G8s were produced in the field by modification of F8 models.

There were probably some incomplete G conversions of the F8 in the field.

GScholz · « **Reply #13 on:** January 01, 2004, 10:49:49 PM »

I didn't think the A8 had MW50. Our A8 has the aux. fueltank.

senna · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:43:30 AM »

There was debate on the subject with the A4 being questionable. I believe debate was if the A4 had it (according to some inaccurate references) then the A5 must of had it. A8 did have it or it was used in combat. Then theres the GM1 issue. The AH fw-190A8 doesnt have it and has a fuel tank in its place. Everybody knows the 190s in AH are under modeled.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=100036&highlight=fw190+mw50