Author Topic: Limp Bizkit, Creed suck (officially) (Read 1249 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #30 on:** January 03, 2004, 04:08:50 AM »

Octavius.. I can give you that crap if I want. You brought it up as an issue that... magically works just one way? Really... you're the only one that mentioned it. Sandman is still trying to dance around it.

Did they tour? Did they release a new album? Why are they on the list?

MiniD

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 03, 2004, 05:49:57 AM »

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anybody know where I can find that t-shirt that says "Even Jesus Hates Creed" ? best shirt ever.

BB Gun · « **Reply #32 on:** January 03, 2004, 11:28:41 AM »

I dunno Mini-D. While some of what you say is undoubtedly true, I don't think its the primary reason...

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The other big disappointments of the year were listed as "all new music," the break-up of Texas metal veterans Pantera, the continued absence of a new Guns 'N Roses album, and Marcos Curiel's departure from Christian rock band P.O.D.

At any rate, I find the self-importance of music mags and the posing of the musicians in them to be amusing, at best, and mostly tedious and self-inflated.

I think creed is "simple" rock, and while I haven't bought any albums, my son has, and it's ok for musical simpleton non-metal heads like me (don't like metallica et al except for a song here and there - more an AC/DC 4 chord rock kinda guy).

BB

Ripsnort · « **Reply #33 on:** January 03, 2004, 11:52:02 AM »

Creeds first album was a winner, I still listen to it.

Octavius · « **Reply #34 on:** January 03, 2004, 12:34:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Octavius.. I can give you that crap if I want. You brought it up as an issue that... magically works just one way? Really... you're the only one that mentioned it. Sandman is still trying to dance around it.

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Don't skew the original meaning. The question was an either/or and had two ways to it. A fan. or. Someone blindly defending because the word 'christian' was mentioned.

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Did they tour? Did they release a new album? Why are they on the list?

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No tour. No new album. And You should ask the magazine why they're on the list. They "suck" according to guitar world or whatever they're called. Attempting to justify and define universal terms for suckage won't work.

I mentioned before why I don't care for creed. They have been overplayed even in their year off. Not their fault necessarily. They could have a part in it, agreeing for the major radio stations to play their songs 500 times a week, but it doesn't matter. Someone says "Creed sucks!" and I just happen to agree.

Charon · « **Reply #35 on:** January 03, 2004, 01:51:07 PM »

WTG Saur

Creed always struck me as Pearl Jam light, and I'm not a big Pearl Jam fan. Then you listen to this clown talk about himself for 10 minutes on VH1 and he even pushes the boundries of Rock Star Ego. LOL

Charon

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #36 on:** January 03, 2004, 02:04:32 PM »

Oh dont even get me started on Pearl Jam.

Eddie ****nut Vedder is the SECOND worst front man ever.

Pearl Jam is even more of a joke than Creed. While I will concede that Ten was a decent album - after that - their attempt to make 'music' were so lame and ego driven that any respect gained for a good first album was erased.

You need a huge ****ing ego to make Vitology. Who else would think that the general public would go buy an album where not ONE WORD was understandable?

Mini D · « **Reply #37 on:** January 03, 2004, 07:03:48 PM »

So... Just to be clear...

They suck because:

1) They're overplayed
2) They're in it for the money

Gotcha. I'm just wondering why Guitar magazine used so many intangeables and no-music related reasons to describe why they don't like creed... as is everyone here. My money says everyone's going to the well of "these are good reasons not to like a band so let's say it about creed".

I don't know what's setting people off in regards to this band, but the things being mentioned are not why you hate bands. "I don't like thier music"... did that appear once in this thread?

Not that this is anything new for rock-and-roll. It's like those who champion classical music and think themselves above it enough to critique everything whether there's a valid reason or not.... only one group is drunk and stoned while the other is drunk and on cocain.

MiniD

Tarmac · « **Reply #38 on:** January 03, 2004, 08:25:01 PM »

Saur cited musical reasons for not liking Creed. He summed it up pretty well.

1. Scott Stapp is an egotistical holier-than-thou born-again moron. My opinion here is based on seeing him in interviews on TV, seeing them live when they were promoting their 2nd album, and also based on the way that he portrays himself in videos.

2. Their music is crap. "One" is their only good song; there are a few others from the first album that are OK. Since the first album, their motto seems to be "if we turn up the distortion enough, nobody will be able to tell how much our music sucks."

3. I bought "Human Clay" before I saw them in concert, to get acquainted with it a bit so I'd know some songs at the concert. On top of that $15 and the $50 ticket price, I felt jipped out of a good two hours of concert time when Our Lady Peace and Oleander (the co-headliner and opening band, respectively) could have been playing.

So that's why I don't like Creed.

Mini D · « **Reply #39 on:** January 03, 2004, 08:50:40 PM »

Saur cited their philosophy and eluded to "same three guitar chords" as the only "telent refference". 3 guitar chords is about 1 more than most bands play these days. I remember a reference to "The Police" that went: The band that knows 200 chords but only plays 3.

Alot of people don't like the religous overtones. That's fine and all... It's just funny to see people pretend that's not really it. Even to the point of dubbing anyone that likes the band as liking them because of their christian overtones (right octavius?).

I'm just trying to see justification for the rampant hatred of this band. It just doesn't make sense.

MiniD

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #40 on:** January 04, 2004, 12:44:25 AM »

Mini.

Creed's music is kinda like green beans.

Its hard to put your finger on 'why' but everyone hates them save the lone guy in the corner swearing his allegiance.

Its just empty. Fake. Phoney. Whatever word you need to use to describe it. The band puts on a facade of 'deep emotional torture' because it sells - not because its how they 'feel.'

Mini D · « **Reply #41 on:** January 04, 2004, 01:49:12 AM »

Do you really want to use that as a criteria for not liking a band saur? Or just in this particular situation?

I understand not liking them. Music is purely taste. I just don't see the justification for the seething hatred that's been displayed in this thread. "I can't quite put my finger on it, but for some odd reason I loathe their very existance." It just doesn't quite work.

Not really much more to say on it other than suggesting you try a web search and find more reasons to hate them.

MiniD

Octavius · « **Reply #42 on:** January 04, 2004, 04:16:26 AM »

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Alot of people don't like the religous overtones. That's fine and all... It's just funny to see people pretend that's not really it. Even to the point of dubbing anyone that likes the band as liking them because of their christian overtones (right octavius?).

Don't lump me into that generalization. I don't even fit. You've misread my post, saying I accused christians for defending blindly a christian group, and you use that to generalize an entire "type of reason for hating this band."

I said: "Are you defending Creed as an actual fan or just because a few christian rock songs?" - A legitimate inquiry.

Then, without even proving your mislead generalization, you accept it and move on to the next 'point,' failing to realize you couldn't prove yourself right (or wrong) in the first place.

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I understand not liking them. Music is purely taste. I just don't see the justification for the seething hatred that's been displayed in this thread. "I can't quite put my finger on it, but for some odd reason I loathe their very existance." It just doesn't quite work.

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I'm just trying to see justification for the rampant hatred of this band. It just doesn't make sense.

Why should I have to justify my preference, my personal like of music, for you?

I prefer to take a shit around 3pm daily. Is that ok with you, Mini? Or should I provide reasoning for that?

I'll quote myself again: "Attempting to justify and define universal terms for suckage won't work.

define hate.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #43 on:** January 04, 2004, 12:49:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Do you really want to use that as a criteria for not liking a band saur? Or just in this particular situation?

I understand not liking them. Music is purely taste. I just don't see the justification for the seething hatred that's been displayed in this thread. "I can't quite put my finger on it, but for some odd reason I loathe their very existance." It just doesn't quite work.

Not really much more to say on it other than suggesting you try a web search and find more reasons to hate them.

MiniD

I dont like Creed because I dont like Creed's music.

Im sorry my reasons for disliking Creed dont quite make the grade with you, Mini. Ill try harder next time in hopes of avoiding the usual questioning of my motivation.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #44 on:** January 04, 2004, 10:12:23 PM »

Anyone seen that episode of South Park (new one this season) where Cartman tries to start up a band and fails until he claims its Christian rock?

Thats the impression I've had of Creed since they first hit the scene.
-SW