realism?

[Jekyll]

Was it only a week ago that there appeared a thread on this board about how we were all gonna try to separate the constructive comments from the blatant flames?

How time flies  

[R4M]

 

Originally posted by Ciberputa:
R4M, creo que has metido la pata, como siempre.

De verdad?...no soy yo quien va diciendo por ahi que los warbirds de la 2GM "vibraban", ni que el FM del B17 de "the mighty eight" es lo mejorcito del mundo de la simulacion...asi que dudo mucho que haya metido la pata    

AH, a todo esto, tu nick demuestra dos cosas:
1-el cobarde que eres (que no te atreves a abrir una discusion con tu AUTENTICO nick, sino que tienes q crearte uno nuevo)

2-bueno.....cyberputa...con ese nick...necesito decir mas?  


 

Originally posted by Ciberputa:
Por cierto, sabes que no es cierto que yo haya dicho lo que pones en el topic, lo sabes de sobra. No hace falta que mientas sobre lo que digo para justificar tu postura. Hay más gente por aquí por lo que veo que piensa como yo.

lo que no es cierto?. En la discusion de meristation afirmas que los warbirds de la 2GM VIBRABAN (toma ya), que el Centro de Gravedad es simulado de manera normal en casi todos los simuladores del mercado (punto en el que lo comparabas con "Crimson Skies"), y que el FM Del B-17 Flying Fortress del programa de Microprose B17II "the mighty eight" es el mas ajustado a la realidad que existe.

Y luego te llame coñazo. Lo cual es tambien cierto    

Asi que me diras en que no he dicho la verdad , por favor?. So mentirooooooosooooooon  

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[R4M]

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Originally posted by Ciberputa:
R4M, I think you have messed it up,as always

Really?...I'm not the one who's going out there saying that the B17 FM in "the mighty eight" is the best of the world of Simulators. So I really really doubt I'm the one here who has messed it up    

Ah, By the way, your handle shows two things:

1-you are a coward, because you dont dare to open a thread with your REAL handle, you have to create a new one to keep anonimate.

2-well...cyberpotato (note:Cyberputa in english is Cyberpotato)...with that handle..do I need to say something else?  

 

Originally posted by Ciberputa:
By the way, you know that is not true that I've said what you put in the topic. You know it very well. You dont need to lie about what I say to justify your point of view. There is more people here around here who think like

What is not true?. In the thread in Meristation forums (note: a spanish forum), you DO SASY that the WWII warbirds DID VIBRATE (hell yea!), that the Center of Gravity is simulated normally in almost all the simulators out there in the market (at this point YOU DID COMPARE AH WITH CRIMSON SKIES), and that the FM of the B17 Flying fortress in the Microprose's B17II "the mighty eight" is the most accurate in existence right now.

And then I said you were a "coñazo" (note again: coloquial expresion to say he is getting reaaaaaaaaaaaly old, not a personal insult). Wich, BTW, is true aswell    

So...would you care to tell me where did I failed to say the truth please?...poor liiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeer  



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[R4M]

Note to self. Its almost incredible how I'm known here as "someone who slams AH at all costs", just at the same time that the spanish people think that I am an "AH Fanatic"


Oh, the humanity  

[MANDOBLE]

RearGunner, people posting here represent an insignificant % of AH comunity. Add the fact that people disturbing you in the BB is an insignificant % of posters. AH comunity is, in overal, really nice. You cant justify your leaving based on critics about the comunity manners.

If you want to justify your leaving based on FM/gameplay faults, better think twice. AH is one of the most if not the most frequently upgraded simulator since the first day, anything but a dinosaur. Of course, AH is nor perfect and, perhaps, is still in an early stage, but is heading towards the right direction and maturing at an impresive rate.

[SeaWulfe]

RAM, geez man I told you before that B17 FM is soooooo spot on. I mean, you can take one of those fighters, firewall the throttle, point it straight up into the sky and it will NEVER stop going straight up!

I have yet to spin the B17 in "the mighty eigth" with 2 engines out on one wing and the other two running... I'll pull back the throttle, kick rudder into the direction of the dead engines and firewall the throttle. It'll spin around once then I can recover it easily.

The only thing I use "the mighty eigth" for is to gun and bomb.. I don't bother flying the stupid thing cuz the FM is so beyond arcade Screamin Demon's Over Europe would be considered a billion dollar simulation in comparison.

Just setting you straight RAM, well ALL know "the mighty eigth" is ultra-realistic.... for a 2 year old.
-SW
:-)

[Bodhi]

Having about 36 hours logged in the AT-6, countless hops in a variety of different B-25's, B-17's, a dual control stang, and many other types.  11 years worth of civilian aviation under my belt, I have this to say on the topic of AH realism.  It is not the same as being in the cockpit, but, they can not replicate the noise factor, vibration, feel of torque or, the seemingly "ton of bricks" feeling you get from unloading a bunch of G's.  There is also a lot less of a workload present to the pilot as Frenchy previously mentioned.  But, what AH has done, IMHO, has done an excellent job of representing this world to the laymen.  It is accurate enough, that I enjoy it, and thats what is important.  Comparitavely, it beats the pants off from Warbirds, and AW.

[Lephturn]

Wow, thanks Bodhi, that's good info.

Nice to hear from somebody that's got some experience in similar birds.

Hey, I could use your experience talking about roll effects imparted by the engine, propeller, and other things.  If you get a chance, please stop by this thread:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum2/HTML/000826.html

I may need to be straightened out on various points in that thread.  I'm doing my best, but I don't have your experience and knowledge.  Please straighten me out where needed.    Thanks!

Lephturn

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http://www.flyingpigs.com

Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome for AH articles and training info!

[Toad]

 

Originally posted by Bodhi:
But, what AH has done, IMHO, has done an excellent job of representing this world to the laymen.  It is accurate enough, that I enjoy it, and thats what is important.  Comparitavely, it beats the pants off from Warbirds, and AW.

Right on the mark, Bodhi. Well said.

[Ciberputa]

RAM, I always used Ciberputa (Cyberpotato) as nickname and Bigbald is the nickname I'll use in WW2 Online and in many other games. Some friends call me "GranCalvo" in real life because I am big and bald.
I have explained you the question about B17 and Gravity Center, but Ill repeat it for the crew. B17 is a bad sim, a toejam, but it has the best B17 model I have seen in a PC sim. It's my opinion. I'm talking about the B17 and not the rest of the planes represented in the game.
And I have explained you that Crimson Skies and many other arcade games uses CG as reference for the movements. Ask to any programmer.
I have said also that engine in 40's planes produce vibrations.

Be happy

[R4M]

Look cyberputa.....

when we talk about the importance of the CG calculations, we mean that AH takes in account the changes of weight balance as the fuel is consumed, the ammo expended and the bombs ejected, etc etc etc.

Of course we all know that Crimson Skies do the same  (at least you affirm in meristation that CS does this too...or AM I LYING IN THIS TOO, txikitin?   ).
Oh, I forgot to mention the latest jewel of this allmighty FM expert...in Meristation forums, he affirms that Xwing does it too !!(lol).  

Or maybe is that you ,oh the god of the allmighty FM-testers, those who know wich FM is accurate and wich not, Those who says that AH FM sucks...

Maybe is that you, I say, HAVE NO DAMNED IDEA ON WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?!.

Get a clue. You have NO idea about FMs. Not that I'm an expert but dude, besides you I'm an expert  

About the B17, oh, damn this again, oh dear..... look dude I have told you now five times that you NEED TO LEARN TO READ. At least to understand what your eyes are looking at. Because you simply seem NOT to be processing what you read.

I have stated SEVERAL times in this same forum that you, Mr Cyberputa, Santiago,Grancalvo or whatever you are called, that YOU, affirm that the B-17 FM[/i] of "the mighty fortress" is the BEST FM of B17 in the Sim market. I HAVENT mentioned the rest of the planes of that sim (wich, for a change, in Meristation you agree that their FM suck). I have talked about wich is YOUR idea of the accuracy of a B17 FM.

BTW the same guy with the mentioned idea of what an accurate B17 FM is, says that the B17 in AH Sucks. not that I disagree, tho, but really I dont think he is the best one to say it, given his idea of what an acurate FM is.

 I have stated,several times in this same forum, what YOU just have wrote up there. Yet you write EXACTLY what I've said here for now five times.  

You seem LOCKED,FIXATED in your idea that I am saying lots of lies, yet I am translating almost LITERALLY what you are saying in Meristation. (Ask Mandoble, or Da98, or Pepe...or whoever who reads both Forums)

BTW the B-17 FM in that game SUCKS. PLAINLY SUCKS. It behaves like a Cessna, with full bombload takes off in half the field WITHOUT FLAPS. and every other part of that FM is in consonance with that.

Yet you affirm is very accurate.....

really ,dude, get a couple of clues (or three), because you have none.

Have a nice day, txikitin  

P.S. before some of you guys say that maybe he is having problems with english, no he isnt. I had to explain him four times in four separate posts WHICH was the paying method in WWIIOL. In his third answer he was still insisting that it would be just one 40$ payement for the box and CD, and 10$/month...after I had explained him THREE TIMES (in spanish) that the 40$ is for a scenario and that when new scenarios are pulled up, you need to buy them too.

Simply said: really, he doesnt proccessate what he reads. Or simple, he doesnt read what other people post.

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[Ciberputa]

I have repy you in the Meristation forum Mr. expert, it was a misunderstood as you know

[R4M]

yes. Now is a misunderstood. After almost 30 posts you FINALLY realize what are we talking about.

really, learn to read.

[Ripsnort]

Making more friends Ram?  

[R4M]

Need those who I need. ANd I dont lack them. Other guys who I know use to toejam over them.

Ripsnort dont get me started...again. Or do I need to put a link on your "honest" thread about the BSing?