Author Topic: School Ground Antics? (Read 1808 times)

Bodhi · « **on:** May 24, 2001, 08:08:00 AM »

It is totally amazing how many people in here are just absolute experts on everything. Here is a very simple hint to all you couch experts,

"Visiting a few airshows, museums, and reading a few books on a broad subject such as warbirds does not make you a freaking expert."

Neither do any of you have the right to spend 2 hours arguing in front of all as to whether Col Bong prefered to HO's from a slightly above level attitude or whether that actually constituted a HO.

I do not normally perch up on a soap box, but damnit, I have been working in the warbird industry for damn near 10 years. I have seen a lot, built alot, flown in a lot. That does not qualify me as an expert though, but the beauty of it is, I realize that.

Another simple hint that some of you need to realise, "Just because you read it, does not mean it is true!" Shortly before his death, I remember Col. Bruce Carr telling a few of us at lunch about a book (that will remain UNNAMED) that he appeared in, totally inventing quotes and generally not doing a proper job of retelling what he had said. We asked him why he did not make them fix it? He replied, "Why, I have been there and already done it, why argue with them."

The reason I tell you this, is simple, most of these books present quite a few ambiguiies when it comes to real life. I have seen books say one thing, and turned around and had the aircraft do something totally different in flight. My suggestion to ya'll is this, get out there and listen more and make less noise, you will be surprised as to what you can learn.

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Bodhi
-*Armageddon*-

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Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2001, 08:11:00 AM »

(witnesss dog walk up to a post, sniffs, lifts leg, walks away down the street)

Bodhi · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2001, 08:47:00 AM »

The amazing thing thus far is that you have made 7596 posts of absolutely the same drivel Ripsnort.

Krusher · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2001, 12:50:00 PM »

Bodhi wrote:
Shortly before his death, I remember Col "Bud" Anderson telling a few of us at lunch about a book
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I do not believe that Bud Anderson is dead.

Krush

buhdman · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2001, 01:49:00 PM »

Damn, if "Bud" Anderson is dead, then I shook the hand of a ghost!! Cool!

funked · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:02:00 PM »

Well Bodhi admitted he wasn't an expert.

I think the point Bodhi is trying to make is a good one. There is a lot of conflicting and inaccurate information out there for various reasons.

If you find something in a book... it's just something you found in a book. It might be true, but don't be surprised if there are other sources (books, articles, documents, or pilot anectdotes) which say something entirely different. And don't be surprised if the truth is "none of the above"!

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Badger · « **Reply #6 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:06:00 PM »

I believe he's confusing Richard "Bud" Peterson who passed away on 4 June 00 at Minneapolis, MN with CE "Bud" Anderson who is (to my knowledge) still alive. Capt. Richard "Bud" Peterson was a 15.5 kill ace with the 364th FS/357th FG. He was a slow starter and scored most of his kills during the last 9 months of the war. He was a Group-mate of CE "Bud" Anderson and Chuck Yeager. All of his Mustangs were named "Hurry Home Honey" which was the way his wife signed all of her letters.

http://www.cebudanderson.com/357profilehhhdtwotone.htm http://www.cebudanderson.com/autographed_photos.htm

I have an autographed Nicholas Trudgian print signed by both Kit Carson and Bud Peterson. He was quite a gentleman and it was an honor to have met him.

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Zippatuh · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:16:00 PM »

Bodhi,

I was just in Orlando a week ago and in the hotel they had multiple pamphlets over all the different area attractions. One of them was on warbird restoration.

Needless to say the wife had other plans and I never made it but I think it was in Kissimmee. Do you work there or have anything to do with them?

Just wondering,

Zippatuh

Eagler · « **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:17:00 PM »

was wondering the same thing. Also is there a place nearby, or same outfit, that sells rides in a P-51?

Eagler

Checksix · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:33:00 PM »

hey ripsnort
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/009779.html

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milnko · « **Reply #10 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:42:00 PM »

Tis true, there is so much conflicting data out there and so many cyberpilots think they know it all and shout down any opposing opinion.

I've read Chuck Yeager's Bio and he said the ONLY German plane close in performance to the P-51D was the FW 190, unfortunately, he doesn't specify which model...the Dora would be my guess.

At any rate Yeager flew combat missions in Europe, and test piloted quite a few planes and one would think "IF" there was an expert out there it would be him, so if I was gonna believe anyone's opinion it'd be his.

As for myself, I've never flown a airplane, I was a Jet Engine Mechanic on the GE TF-34 in the NAVY (1981-1989) and got some S-3A Viking simulator time when getting Engine turn-up qual'd, as well as having talked to the pilots after thier flights, so I'm not an "expert" but I know "a little" about aircraft and flight dynamics.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:46:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Checksix:
hey ripsnort
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/009779.html

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Hey, checksix, don't know what your trying to say, but what I was trying to say is "Piss on them, Bodi".

hazed- · « **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2001, 02:54:00 PM »

well rip even if it was the same joke in 7956 (he sure is touchy rip

)posts it still made me laugh my bellybutton off

DmdStuB · « **Reply #13 on:** May 24, 2001, 03:46:00 PM »

Ahhhh, I thought the dog was lifting it's leg on Bodhi's post

Although he's a fairly mental.....err, emotional, well more like touretts syndrome,

, Bodhi is a pretty good fellah, not to mention that he is a lucky bassturd for getting to work on old warbirds and meet some of the legends who flew them. I stayed at his house during the '96 AW con (which he helped out with quite a bit)and got to check out the shop he works at(Crazy Horse is parked in a hangar next door). All I can say is Nirvanna, total Nirvanna.

StuB

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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Hey, checksix, don't know what your trying to say, but what I was trying to say is "Piss on them, Bodi".

Bodhi · « **Reply #14 on:** May 24, 2001, 05:25:00 PM »

My apologies on the Bud Anderson death, that was my mistake, was agitated when I wrote it, and did not realize the mistake until you pointed that out. I meant to say, Bruce Carr, a 51 pilot, that on top of being an ace, was also the first US pilot to steal a German FW-190 from a German field after a week of hiding out from capture from being shot down in his 51.

Zippatuh and Eagler, yes to both accounts. I work for the restoration facility in Kissimmee, the Warbird Museum, aka Tom Reilly's Vintage Aircraft. Stallion 51 Corp. is right next to us and offers rides in TF-51D Mustangs (actually Cavalier converted stangs) that are fully dual control. Also, at our facility there is an outfit, Warbird Adventures that offers rides in T-6, the kicker being that you ride up front regardless as to whether you are a pilot or not. I welcome all of you to come check this plethora of aviation history out when you are in the Orlando area. We are about 10 miles from the rat (Disney) near mile marker 15 on US192 (Vine Street) in Kissimmee, there are signs to the museum. While there, ask to see me, Bodhi, and someone will point me out if I am there and not chained away some where StuB =)