best outcome from space exploration:

[Animal]

The only way the discovery of intelligent life would unite men is to achieve the goal of DESTROYING THEM.

[Saurdaukar]

Well obviously... WTF is the point of exploring the reaches of the galaxy if you cant find a civilization to attack... where have you been?

[Animal]

LOL, ever since cinema was invented we have had many xenophobic movies of alien invasion.

I think if we mastered space travel, its the other races who have something to fear.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Animal
The only way the discovery of intelligent life would unite men is to achieve the goal of DESTROYING THEM.

I think he meant that uniting mankind would be the best outcome of space exploration, not necessarily discovering life.

[GODO]

Originally posted by AKIron
[BMy personal belief is that God created everything including time and space and that it is full of life and beyond our imagining. [/B]

It is amazing to see how the human being needs to believe in the concept of creation when the only concept we can "touch", "feel" and measure is transformation.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by GODO
It is amazing to see how the human being needs to believe in the concept of creation when the only concept we can "touch", "feel" and measure is transformation.

We all understand the concept of beginning and end. It is something all of us experience firsthand. It really isn't that amazing to me that so many of us "feel" there must have been a beginning to our universe.

[vorticon]

Originally posted by kappa
no worries.. thanks for being polite.. 8)

I dont mean to sound like we have to meet an advanced race.. Single celled organisms would be fine.. Any life or evidence thereof...

God made man and loved man above all others...  How could this be true?

According to the bible there was adam and eve and the garden of eden... all life originates from there...

How could baptist/methodist  or catholic/protestant veiw each others religion to be so false after realizing they themselfs didnt have it all right??

All life does not originate from mother earth our god's creation... therby given great testiment to the theroy or evolution.. Darwin's Origin of Species....

Just a few ways Iron.. Im sure I could ponder many more.. Not unlike, and possibly not without cause, the fear the religious community feels about humans genetically enginerring babies.. Any thing that forces people to question their wisdom, in my opinion, is a good thing.......

1. man...as far as were concerned "man" may be any sentient race ever created...the beleif wont die...it will just change
2. garden of eden...while the garden is assumed to be on earth...it may be somewhere in deepspace and god after creating man saw that he could do better and set about creating a new species of sentient life...but simply forgot to remove the arrogant view of "gods only" before setting about on the new task...not to say that he doesnt prize us equally...once again it changes but not falters

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GODO
It is amazing to see how the human being needs to believe in the concept of creation when the only concept we can "touch", "feel" and measure is transformation.

Transformation? what do you mean humans can touch and feel transformation? That's funny.

And, BTW, if there was no creation, how could anything exist? If something exists, wasn't it created? The "concept" of creation...lol

I ask you: how do you believe all the matter in the universe came to be? Was is created? Was it always here? If it was always here, what law of science can explain how all the matter just simply always existed? If all the matter was created, what law of science can explain how all the matter was created from nothing?

My conclusion: It's just as credible to believe that God created everything as it is to believe any other concept..but hey, I'm just moron.

[B17Skull12]

Originally posted by Martlet
I can't see how the discovery of life on other planets would rule out religion.

let me find my bible and the quote from it.  I went to catcholic school for 9 years this is my first year in public school.  the bible says that we are the only living things in the universe.  so if we found life we would render the bible useless is basicly what akppa meant to say.

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by B17Skull12
let me find my bible and the quote from it.  I went to catcholic school for 9 years this is my first year in public school.  the bible says that we are the only living things in the universe.  so if we found life we would render the bible useless is basicly what akppa meant to say.

Perhaps literally, but my point above was that if you ever argued with a devote relgious man, its a circle jerk.

Show him the passage that states we are the only life in the universe after we find it in our own star system and he will state that we were purposely mislead in the Bible for X reason.

You cannot convince a religious man that his devotion is misplaced because faith cannot be disproven - it only comes out as a different, and in his eyes, incorrect opinion.

[Octavius]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Perhaps literally, but my point above was that if you ever argued with a devote relgious man, its a circle jerk.

Show him the passage that states we are the only life in the universe after we find it in our own star system and he will state that we were purposely mislead in the Bible for X reason.

You cannot convince a religious man that his devotion is misplaced because faith cannot be disproven - it only comes out as a different, and in his eyes, incorrect opinion.

Like I said before... how conveniently loose and open to interpretation it seems...

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

According to the Bible we are only created in God's image, not the only things in the universe.

Then again, the Catholic Church believed the Earth was the center of the solar system and was open to committing those to imprisonment for those that believed otherwise.

Religion is something mankind created, belief in a singularity (a God if you will) is an entirely different subject.
-SW

[Octavius]

Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Then again, the Catholic Church believed the Earth was the center of the solar system and was open to committing those to imprisonment for those that believed otherwise.

And who developed that theory?  Ptolemy.  What did he create?  The Tetrabiblos (Bible of Astrology).

Why would the catholic church adopt an ancient heretic's theory?

[Ping]

Originally posted by B17Skull12
let me find my bible and the quote from it.  I went to catcholic school for 9 years this is my first year in public school.  the bible says that we are the only living things in the universe.  so if we found life we would render the bible useless is basicly what akppa meant to say.

 Thats a pretty large leap of faith there B17.
Nowhere does it say we are the only living things in the Universe.
You are going to have to quote Scripture and verse on that one.

On Topic:  While Space Exploration is filled with tecnological achievements, as well as exciting finds and discoveries, I have to question what it is being done to correct the Rape of the Planet we currently reside on.
 Lets put the financing into terraforming our once great Jewel into something that is habitable again.
Transform the deserts that are bleak and barren, and nowhere near as expensive to travel to.
Perfect desalinization processes so as to utilize the most abundant commodity we have, water from the Oceans.

Sorry to be a Killjoy, but I beleive we have more pressing concerns here than figuring out if we can colonize another planet.

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