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Offline yowser

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« Reply #405 on: January 20, 2004, 05:51:47 PM »
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Well yes indeed I said that Yowser. Anyone who's read the thread up through page two knows that. I haven't denied it.

Based upon what the source you continually reference (the BBC) said.

So it goes like this:

The world news media says the rounds are "banned chemical weapons" after initial testing. Then it comes up in this thread and I said "they are chemical weapons" and I based that on initial media reports.

Now I posted that "they are chemical weapons" in one post on page 2 of the multipage thread. I think my next post is around page 4 where Scholz and I started discussing UN resolutions and Charters again.

So you go ahead an keep trying to paint this as me being overzealous, unable to contain my excitement and screaming "They ARE chemical weapons" from the rooftops.

It's such a disconnect from the reality of the whole post, especially when an intelligent reader considers that I said it sure wasn't a big enough deal to justify an invasion, that it's making you look...... well, you figure it out.

I love it when folks do it to themselves.  :rofl  

This apparently has your panties in quite a tight wad, though. So for that alone and for the self-portrait you've painted, I'm glad I posted it.


Go 500!



Not in a wad at all.  I think my calm, cool and collected manner of posting is evidence of that.  Maybe I should use more smilies like you?  :)

As for me painting you as overzealous on this matter, that is strictly my opinion.  You may have a different one on this matter.  I won’t argue opinions, only facts.

If you had not disagreed with my post that you had the facts wrong there would have been no further discussion.

Anyways, I suppose we’ll have to accept your last post as the closest we’ll ever get to Toad admitting he had the facts wrong.

Move along people.  Nothing to see here.

:rofl

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« Reply #406 on: January 20, 2004, 05:59:30 PM »
you will talk about anything but the friggin subject. the fact that the closest word to lie in the english laguage embodys you regular arguments is a your own personal problem, coming up with half assed argumets preaching to the chior is runnin out of gass fool.

the fact you are lieing about a argument that took place in your own head is your own thing entirely dont drag me into your nightmare of bull****. even if such ranks existed i was not supposed to know about them how would not knowing about them be wrong? i didnt claim to be a spook (like you are?) where the hell did this even come from?


anyway your saying a bunch of guys compromized classified info to you ( what level again junior? and at what rc club meeting? what was the name again and classification level?) ever heard of need to know? or felonys ? your a ****in liar.you argument is as infuriating in its audatious falshood using military secrecy to cover your walter middy racists crap against arabs your a  real winner. so you try to assasinate my ****in character on a made up in your own mind argument?

tell me more about the american way and security mr liar.
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« Reply #407 on: January 20, 2004, 06:02:47 PM »
LDV, what is your native language?


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so you try to assasinate my ****in character on a made up in your own mind argument?

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Again, you think that's a fine tactic when you use it against Bush, but when used against you it's no longer fair?

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« Reply #408 on: January 20, 2004, 06:06:25 PM »
ohh you mean the part about the guy who never reported for duty after a transferr but said he did. even tho his (if he had reported) co said he never did and no records exist that he did.


sayin it aint true a million times dont change that fact either.

but your really just runnin interception for mr liar anyway so.

back off pack attack boy.

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« Reply #409 on: January 20, 2004, 06:30:41 PM »
So you're saying you don't remember that entire discussion we had about the Saudi shootdown when you were "towd" on this BBS?

You'll have to clear this up. When you go into spew mode, it's hard to tell what you're saying.

I'll tolerate you calling me a liar because I consider the source and so does pretty much everyone else here. Coming from you, any insults are meaningless.

But I'm more than willing to go over that whole argument again with you if you like.

It started when I said that those Iraqi's were passed on to the Saudi flight for political considerations.

Remember now? You had a major spew over that. Then you proceeded to tell me how you were in the CIC of the USS Virginia and personally "heard it all".

I pointed out that you hadn't heard the comms between the RC-135 from my old squadron and the AWACS. You came up with the same security violation / top secret clearance bs then too. Like my old crew wouldn't tell me what they'd been doing, seen and heard.

It's pretty clear you surely don't have a clue what the capabilities of an RC-135 actually are. Nor are you apparently aware of how the RC-135 interacts with AWACS and JSTARS. Heck, I bet you don't even know who (what personnel) was running JSTARS during GW1.

Then you told me that TS was the highest clearance there was and that made it clear you didn't have a clue what really went on.

You still don't.

Like I said, I'm sure there are a few others yet around that remember you spewing off during that one TOWD.

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« Reply #410 on: January 20, 2004, 06:34:58 PM »
Yeah, Yowser, I was as wrong as the BBC on Sunday. I can live with that.
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« Reply #411 on: January 20, 2004, 06:36:36 PM »
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ohh you mean the part about the guy who never reported for duty after a transferr but said he did. even tho his (if he had reported) co said he never did and no records exist that he did.


sayin it aint true a million times dont change that fact either.

but your really just runnin interception for mr liar anyway so.

back off pack attack boy.


I see.  It's obvious you have information that I don't.  Could you provide a link please?

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« Reply #412 on: January 20, 2004, 10:58:47 PM »
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The Anthrax was traced back to an American lab, if i recall correctly.


It was traced to an Army Lab iirc in Md

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« Reply #413 on: January 21, 2004, 04:18:11 AM »
What and where is "Army Lab iirc in Md"?
(sorry for being so ignorant)
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« Reply #414 on: January 21, 2004, 04:42:20 AM »
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What and where is "Army Lab iirc in Md"?
(sorry for being so ignorant)


I believe he means:

Army Laboratory, if I recall correctly, in Maryland

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« Reply #415 on: January 21, 2004, 08:24:53 AM »
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As well as not knowing that Top Secret isn't the highest classification you also don't know the difference between an RC-135 and a KC-135?
OK. No point in discussing anything with you in that case.


Technically... TS is the highest classification... but then again, that information is compartmentalized and you don't have a need to know - do you.

But if you want enlightenment you could find it by smoking a joint down by the river.

That's pretty much how Bush came up with the notion that Saddam had WMD.... because it didn't come from any credible intelligence source.... as has been proven over and over again....

CAD drawings and Intercepts of two Iraqi's talking about a truck - aka Sophisticated Mobile Chem Lab - Sheesh! That's some real dope smoking... turning a weather balloon hydrogen generator into a WMD Mobile Chem Lab.

Then there's the crack pipe smoking which produced Satelite photos of WMD laboratories.. which after US ground WMD experts searched... scrubed... sniffed... and dug up... turned out to be a pesticide manufacturing facility for Iraqi's agriculture industry.

[Dana Carvy doing his Bush voice]

Saddam Bad.. bad... nope ain't gonna stand for it, no more...
Saddam bad wicked man...
Amereeka Good... on the course of Rightgeousness.
God is on our side - he told me so...

Saddam Wicked... Satan Worshiper.
Satan Baaad
Weapons of Mass Deeeestruction...
45 minutes...until Deeestruction....
Must act now..
Pre-emptive war...

Di Da ditty da!

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« Reply #416 on: January 21, 2004, 09:55:23 AM »
WARNING:  SIDETRACK


What enlisted rating that normally pulls watch in a CIC would have a TS or above clearance?

I can only think of 2 or 3.  Any CT, an FC related to tomahawk and maybe the rare OS.  

An IS might have one as well, but I never saw one that stood watch in CIC.

And why would you need a TS clearance to converse with the AWACS?  The OS air-tracker and EW's for should would be in contact and those have only a SECRET clearance.

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« Reply #417 on: January 21, 2004, 10:26:18 AM »
499!!

Did they find them yet??
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« Reply #418 on: January 21, 2004, 10:27:51 AM »
Did someone say WMD?!

Damn, another false alarm... #500.
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« Reply #419 on: January 21, 2004, 10:31:40 AM »
Ha!! 501!!

Im just over average!
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