what well the He111 bring to the game?

[simshell]

i was just thinking what would the He111 bring to the game i understand it fills a gap in the CT but cant the JU88 do the same or even better


so i ask what does the He111 bring new to the table

[FUNKED1]

Juicy targets.  

[Angus]

Slower than Ju88, carrying roughly the same payload (although not necessarily the same setup, i.e. 8x500 kg bombs!).
More rugged and a nice flyer
Necessary for early war Scenarios. To replace it in the BoB you would need an earlier Ju88 or a Do17. (So 17 at the time being the fastest in low flight?)
To replace it in the early Russian campaign there is not much (payload issue?), especially regarding looks
He111 would be just cool !!

[simshell]

hmm never know it could carry 8 500kg bombs which is like 8 1000ib bombs which is better then the B17 and the fact that like the JU88 it would be a great bombing plantform making it a forgiving bomber like the JU88

the JU88 is a better bombing plantform then the B17 because the B17 is 50000 pounds it bleeds speed with alot of moving on the bombrun making a much harder bomber to bomb with


now the JU88 is almost 2 times lighter and it can make moves on the bombrun and still be able to hit the target deadon

[Urchin]

Nothing, imo.  We need to get more uber-planes.  Ki-84 in particular, at least you'd be looking at the Big 5 instead of the Big 4 then.

[Batz]

Nice disguesed LA7 whine urchin!!!

[simshell]

Urchin plz keep your LA7 big 4 hate out of this thread


the He111 would bring a heavy bombload with 8 1000ib bombs which is better then the B17 and it would have a great bombing plantform and it would be a much smaller target

kind of why the B26 does so well because its a smaller bomber


it would bring a JU88 that is smaller a better bombing plantform and a better bomb setup much better then the JU88's 4 1000ibs and 20 50kgs
 
with the 8 1000ibs which is more useful in this game

it would fill a cap in the CT to and for EVENT's


and i think the He111 played a bigger role in WW2 then the KI84 and many other later war aircraft

we should add aircraft that played a major role in WW2 not just to make a BIG-5

[moot]

Enough grief have caused the big4!
I present to you the new scapegoat:

the Uberbig5
Ki84
F7F
190D11
G55
HurricaneIIb

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by simshell
so i ask what does the He111 bring new to the table

Not too much.  For the BoB, AH's JU-88 can be tough for the Hurri and Spit I to intercept but you can balance events by putting in
some stukas.

The A-26B would be much better, as a perk plane in the MA and to go up against AH's assortment of late war LW fighters in events.

[Angus]

JU88's were not that many in the BoB, and as far as I know, our Ju88 is a later model.
One could also consider enabling the Hurry IIC in the BoB you know
Isn't our Stuka a later variant as well.
Anyway, we won't see any new planes until AHII

[Batz]

The ju88s in BoB were the a1 (primarily) and the a5. The a5 was an a4 airframe with a1 engines. The a4 eng were delayed in production.

The a4 is slightly faster then the a1/a5. The he111 was reportedly "more rugged" then the ju88 and Do17.

The ju87 we have is a d-3 and the bob variant would be the b2.

He111 would be great but there will be no ner planes in ah for some time. AH2 needs to get released and tweaked, then ah tod needs to be "written". But after that there are other huge wholes in the ah planeset that need to be filled so that AH ToD can run multiple theaters.
 
So dont hold your breath waiting.

[Pongo]

Nothing.
Put that dev time into the He177.

[frank3]

BV-141

[Urchin]

Ok, to be slightly less sarcastic.  

I don't think the HE111 would bring anything to the game, at all.  We already have one 1940 German bomber, we really don't need another one.  We can run a BoB scenario just fine with the Ju-88 and Ju-87.  We don't need the He111 or Do17, which offer similar performance with a slightly different shape.  

What the game could use, in my opinion, is a lot more Japanese planes.  We've got no  Ki-43, no Ki-44, no Ki-45 (which as far as I know were the 3 major IJAAF fighters from 1941-1944) and no Ki-84 (which would be the IJAAF's major 1944-1945 fighter).  We've got no early-war USSR planes, only 1944-1945 stuff.  Sure, the La-7 sees massive use in the MA, but good luck running a scenario.  We've got no Russian bomber, I think one of those should be put in before we get another hangar queen.  Now granted, most of the planes we don't have will be hangar queens in the MA, but they fill holes in the scenario planeset.

[DYGCaps]

I agree 100% with Urchin..We don't have any good Japense airplanes, you have the Niki (alla uber dweeb) and the Zeke...Which we all know sucks...Ki84 Baby!!!!