Author Topic: heavily armed well known bombers that can survive in the MA... (Read 2819 times)

Angus · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2004, 07:47:10 AM »

Since somebody brought up flying boats, How about the big fat Short Sunderland?
Nicely armed, and therefor also nicknamed "the hedgehog" by the Germans

Corsair · « **Reply #31 on:** January 19, 2004, 08:30:20 AM »

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Originally posted by frank3
I'd be up for some heavy buffs, not necciseraly B-24, but maybe some german/russian ones.

The problem with that is that the Germans and Soviets didn't really use heavy bombers (with 1 or 2 exceptions) .

Flyboy · « **Reply #32 on:** January 19, 2004, 08:59:14 AM »

we need more early war bombers.

wellington
betty
blenheim
dornier 17
hienkel 111

will really help the scenarios

frank3 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 19, 2004, 10:41:37 AM »

Agreed! Maybe smthing like the swordfish?

We'll be needing early war fighters then too....

Furball · « **Reply #34 on:** January 19, 2004, 11:54:20 AM »

want a useful early war bomber?

how about this?

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The early MkI had Hercules II engines but they were replaced later by the Hercules XI The first production Stirling rolled off the assembly line in August 1940

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Specifications Short Stirling MkI:

Wingspan: 99' 1" (30.2m)
Length: 87' 3" (26.59m) MkV - 90' 7" (27.61m)
Height: 22' 9" (6.93m)
Empty Weight: 46,900 Pounds
Maximum Weight: 70,000 Pounds
Powerplants: Four 1,500 hp Bristol Hercules XI air cooled radial engines
Armament: Eight .303 Browning machine guns, nose turret (2), dorsal turret (2), tail turret (4), 17.000 Pounds of bombs
Maximum Speed: 255 mph
Service Ceiling: 16,500 feet (maximum load)
Range: 2,330 miles
Crew: Eight

LePaul · « **Reply #35 on:** January 19, 2004, 12:05:41 PM »

Yea but .303s

Its bad enough people can pork multiple drones in one pass

brady · « **Reply #36 on:** January 19, 2004, 12:32:59 PM »

The Short Stirling has always been a favorate plane of mine, but I think realy in the way of early War Buff's the following would help the most for the SEA and for the CT:

Beaufort

Betty or Nell

Il-4

Cant Z. 1007

The Beaufort is a great plane for an early war Buff it is very versatile, in that it is torpedo capable and carys for the time a contempoary bombload and defensive aramament, it was used in the PTO and in Europe and would fit well into many events and the CT.

The Betty/Nell, these would be last on my list in terms of priourty, since the only real diferance between the Peggy we have and them is spead which depending on model is around 20 to 40 mph.

The Il-4 is a must realy we do not have any Russian Bomber's yet and this plane was very important historicaly and would help fill a huge hole in the plane set, presently their are NO Early War Russian planes in the game.

Cant Z. 1007, this would add a new plane for Italy and a new capabality and a nice adation to the Med for events and the CT, used almost everywhear Italy faught from the Begining of the war to it's end and more capable than the SM 79 it would be a nice adation to the plane set.

frank3 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2004, 08:40:51 AM »

I say we get something that can replace/do the job the our Skytrain. Maybe Junkers Ju52?

Angus · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2004, 06:50:30 PM »

Well, the Curtiss Commando would be nice, like a C47 on steroids

Glas · « **Reply #39 on:** January 21, 2004, 07:00:57 AM »

The Li2 was a good troop carrier and is faster than the Junkers Ju52.

For buffs, the He-177 carries a good load and was heavily armed (2x20mm cannons in addition to 4 other guns). The Pe-2 or another schnellbomber (fast bomber) like the Do-217E or JU88S-0 would add something that isnt already there.

Glas
JG13 Lokis Kinder

Angus · « **Reply #40 on:** January 21, 2004, 08:25:27 AM »

Well, in the win engine business, - BEAUFIGHTER and JU 188?

frank3 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 21, 2004, 09:55:28 AM »

Beaufighter for sure! It's a must for ah!

Joker312 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 22, 2004, 09:12:50 AM »

We just have to have a Betty. How many scenerios must we run with the Ju-88 in place of the Betty.

Gotta have it!

frank3 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 22, 2004, 10:04:47 AM »

Well we don't necissarely need new planes. I'd be glad with new targets or new sorts of ordnance (like an enormous bomb)
The target being large cities(and I mean really large, not our squary current ones)

And please PLEASE make the fleet cruise slower....this will make the torping alot easier (and more realistic since you'll even get to hit something for a change!)

Pooh21 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 22, 2004, 02:31:13 PM »

217 E and J, cant let the easy mode compitition beat us there
same goes for the

PE-8
TU-2 or PE-2

O yea we need early war british buff for spanking with nightfighters in the TOD.