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Offline Lazerus

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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2004, 01:45:50 PM »
I worked for a wine and spirits distributor for about 4 years and the best advice I see on here is that a good wine is one that you enjoy. It sounds like you are already well on your way. I would only suggest that if you want to delve further into the wine drinking experience start to research the different varietals and regions. This will give you the ability to recognize a wines' character (somewhat) by what you see on the label. Nothing can take the place of experimentation though. Have fun with it.

As for Aust. reds, I have always liked Penfolds. The bin 407 and 707 can be pricey, but there are several different varietal bins they offer that are all very good quality and won't hurt your pocket so much.

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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2004, 01:49:19 PM »
Dunno if I would.


In mainstream US culture, wine has class associations: the bourgeois drink wine; the working class drinks beer.
I don't particularly like this association, because it generally implies:
A) if you drink wine, people see you as a pretentious bourgeois snob.
B) Many wine stores are run by and cater to pretentious bourgeois snobs.  ( note that it is possible to be a bourgeois snob without being pretentious.  Pretention is simply not having the goods to back it up).
C) A major chunk of the wine market caters to the pretentious bourgeois (=yuppy) image.

What does C mean?

Well, a lot of Americans like the idea of wine. That is, that wine is the stuff that bourgeois folks drink; it's a status symbol.  But there's just one problem: they don't like the taste.

So you get things like supersweet blush wines and chardonnays that are so heavily oaked (or more likely injected with oak chips) you can't taste the grape juice beneath all the sweetness.  I mean, if you like these things, great; but if what you're looking for in a wine is a Rum and Coke, by all means, drink a rum and coke instead.

The other effect is that wine in the US has its own set of fashion trends, to the degree that grape producers will dig up old vines and replace them with something more "Saleable".  Why does Sauvignon Blanc cost less than chardonnay? Is it just the oaking that makes the difference? it's also the demand.

Bottom Line: if you don't like the taste of it; don't drink it. nobody likes a pretentious wine snob, just as nobody likes a M.D. with a PPL, tons of flight time and no clue how to fly.

edit: you know, I think this is a rare O'Club thread in which there's pointed opinions yet pretty much universal agreement.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2004, 01:53:01 PM by Dinger »

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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2004, 01:55:10 PM »
Like ol' Hank Jr. says, "Why do you drink?"  (everyone) "TO GET DRUNK!"  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2004, 02:01:14 PM »
If you want grape juice, drink ****ing grape juice.  If you want to get drunk, drink alcohol.  :)

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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2004, 02:31:45 PM »
funked that stuff tastes like the rubbing alcohol i have in my bathroom. buddy got some for Christmas and we tried it.

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THIS or THIS would be much better
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2004, 07:39:38 PM »
Mazz, like many have already said, the best wine is the kind you like. Doesn't matter if it got a good rating, or how much it costs. If you like it, it's good wine.

I recommend this book if you're interested in becoming a little more educated about wine in general: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1402700903/qid=1074475432/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/103-3469264-8528604?v=glance&s=books

Two of the best things I've ever done to improve my own wine drinking experience was to go to wine drinking events, where you can taste multiple wines immediately after each other, which makes it easier to understand the differences in taste, acidity, oakiness, etc.; the second thing that's helped is I've started to cook more often, and use the wine as an excuse to cook more home made meals. To my wife and I, a nice home cooked meal and a bottle of wine are one of life's little pleasures.

For white wine, my own personal favorite winery is Kendall Jackson. I've never had a bad wine from them. Their Chardonnay and Sauvignon Blanc are my two favorites at the moment.

I don't have a personal favorite winery for reds, but I really enjoy French reds, like Bordeaux and Rhone.

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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2004, 12:30:41 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2004, 12:30:41 AM »

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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2004, 07:27:43 AM »
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Ive found myself particular to the reds thus far - not too big on the whites Ive tried up to this point.  Im also a big red meat guy so I suppose my taste in meat has something to do with it.


Right now, for example, Im finishing up a 2002 Rosemount Shiraz - very, very good as far as I can tell.  Seems to get better with each glass as the other tastes are washed away.

Ill probably pick up a few more bottles and put them away for 9-10 months.

Last week I was drinking 2002 Jacobs Creek Shiraz and Merlot.  Very good...  but seemed to be missing something - not quite as smooth as the Rosemount but Im not experienced enough to know why.

 



1- no not really....you can still drink white wine with red meat.

2- the 2nd sentence says it all " Seems to get better with each glass as the other tastes are washed away"....well said:aok

3- you know why.....you tasted a better wine and compared it to something less achieving in your opinion.....thats what drinking wine is all about....finding the best :cool: