possibility of a bbs not controlled by htc?

[-towd_]

startin to notice more and more censorship  and such here . is anyone else running a bbs where threads dont get locked and censorship is not the order of the day?

if its not pro htc i for one would still like to read it . and athoritarian comments from the management are tired.

[Mighty1]

-towd_ I could put up a BBS but I'm afraid I would censor more that HTC.

I think they do a great job in staying out things till it gets real ugly.

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[Fury]

Personally, I think that HTC is too slow in locking or moving threads.  I've never questioned the reasoning behind locking any thread so far.  In fact, I wish they'd be a little more aggresive.  Some of the crap on this board is around the level of the Fighter Ace newsgroup (that is an insult btw).

Pyro has already posted numerous times about ubb posting, some people just don't get the clue.

Fury

[Eagler]

Yeah towd it's called AOL

have fun

Eagler

[Kieren]

 http://infopop.com/

I have run BBS's for years; I agree with the others here, you wouldn't want to visit mine, either. I would lock threads much faster.  

The above link will take you to the page where you can get your own BBS software. It isn't all that expensive, and then you can set it to any rules (or lack of) you desire.

This is not to be construed as a "don't let the door hit you" type of post; this is another case of "this is an area that is supposed to represent a business, and said business should be allowed to protect their image in any manner they see fit."

[Ripsnort]

Towd, are you asking for a type of "Jenny Jones" style BB where anything goes, nothing gets locked, and all is told?

Hehe, sounds like it would turn into a mud slinging contest rather than anything constructive being an end result of the posts.

I think the HTC has been MORE than liberal on what they allow to go on in here.

[SKurj]

I don't find the censorship to have anything to do with PRO or CON HT threads.
I've noticed it gets locked once the thread has deteriorated into a bunch of girly men calling each other names and generally abusing each other +)

SKurj

[funked]

Go start one Towd!

[Ice]

Eagler....


That was funny! I really laughed out loud at your reply...<S>

Ice

[miko2d]

 There are people here who openly call to boycott AH because of something they do not like, forgetting that this is an official HTC board. That is absolutely outrageous. If you want to boycott HTC, start with their board - do not post on it. HTC should be more restrictive to that kind of abuse.
 
 There is AGW board run by Argo. It is an independent forum where anyone can say what you want (as long as Argo does not mind).

 To answer possible questions:
 1. Constructive criticizm was always welcomed here and is quite different from trying to blackmail the company by means of boycott.
 2. Boycott does hurt the company and other customers even if the accounts are prepaid - we are not paying for empty arenas.
 3. Terms censorship and freedom of speech are not applicable here. The first amendment guarantees that the federal government will not curtail the freedom of expression, not private citizens or corporations in their own property.

miko

[Yeager]

LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

yeager

[easymo]

 I suspect pyro,s post was a response to Macboy, and the like, dropping by to snipe at a game they have never played. Htc,s restraint in allowing some of the post,s here (including some of mine) has gained quite of bit of well deserved respect.

[-towd_]

im lookin into starting one . well i must admit you are right in some ways about there ( htc's) patience with anoing charachters .just some of us believe that any amount of censorship amungst adults is wrong, simply on the idea that who the hell dedcides what gets censored and for what reason. i am of the opinion that they are sensoring things that alot of people ( at least myself ) would like to read . so ill see what i can do to get what i want . ill report back.  

[humble]

towd,

I'm trying to think of a single thread that Pyro has locked due to harsh comments concerning the game or his/HT's actions. I can only recall threads locking when they wander into true drivel/personal attacks.

I've been amazed at how often Pyro "legitimizes" negative posts by answering them. All in all its the best game specific BBS I've seen.

[Kieren]

And seriously, Towd, that is what I was driving at. If you or anyone wants a forum more suited to what you want to see, you always have the option to start one. I run a BBS for my cross-country team right now, have run one for the Joker's Low when necessary, used to run a squad BBS...

In my mind, the BBS administrator sets the rules and tone for the board. If you set your own service up, YOU will indeed put yourself in the position of saying what should be censored or what shouldn't. Ironic, eh? Even by saying "nothing is censored" you are saying what is allowable, which in and of itself is a form of applied censorship.

I am sure there are several people that want a place to say whatever they want to say without respect to any individuals involved, and there certainly ought to be an outlet for it- provided that one of those individuals doesn't expect me or anyone else that doesn't want that type of atmosphere to provide it for them.

If HTC doesn't want the type of posts that detract from their image of what they want their community to be then there should be no reason they should continue to allow those types of posts to occur unaddressed. Call it censorship, call it evil, I call it "business".

I think we all forget from time-to-time whose board this is. AGW can be blamed, in a way- it was a private board that centered on one flight sim. It allowed a lot of levity as to what was discussed, and people began to expect that from all boards. What a surprise when threads started to get locked at the iEN board (as well some of them should have been!).

Towd, I really encourage you to start your service. You might just be the spearhead of some vast, unsatisfied movement towards a truly "free" board. Expecting a company to allow you to say what you want, when you want, and how you want regardless of its impact on the company is not reasonable.