Author Topic: Bush administration and the WMD: why not level with the American people? (Read 3706 times)

whels · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2004, 09:53:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
How ironic.

do u guys really understand what the size of WMD cache is, they are looking for? i dont think u do. I think they said all the weapons they are looking for could fit inside 1 2 story building. now put that building in a place the size of California.

now u dont know what the building looks like, it could be above ground or below. none of the locals will tell u where it is.

now go find that 1 building, with only 200 people or less looking with you.

reports are Saddam had over 300 munitions dumps (huge),
so far we have only been able to complete looking at them
by 1/3 or less.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2004, 09:54:47 AM »

maybe what if bla bla bla......just because it hasnt happend means it wont happen. I love that attitude. And dont forget about the struggle of a peace loving dictator named sadam. He was put down by an oppressive militaristic regiem named the USA. HOW EVIL.

Does anyone have any proof that the stockpiles that may or may not have existed are or are not in syria.

I love how everyone now is an expert on this subject and knows EXACTLY what happend. If clinton had attacked Iraq it would have been just another news story (oops he did attack them) But since it is a republican behind the wheel it must be all about oil and big business and racist motivations and nothing else

Frogm4n · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2004, 09:55:34 AM »

they have also stated that the amount of munitions they though iraq had were false as well whels. Saddam was bluffing then entire time, and its sad that our intelligence didnt know. (or did know)

Dowding · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2004, 10:01:54 AM »

Only 200 people looking? The UN inspectors had a larger staff than that, I should think there are now thousands involved directly. If not, why not?

None of the locals will tell you? What about the high level people captured since last March? None of them would accept a multi-million dollar incentive and a beach house in Malibu for information leading to an arms cache?

I'm sure all these questions will be answered soon(ish).

Westy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2004, 10:56:50 AM »

I don't know what is worse- trying to deflect the blame for the 2003 invasion of Iraq on Clinton or any other past president or confirming by the cut&paste that the current Bush cabinet are all losers simply following in the steps of the loser administration they replaced.

Gixer · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2004, 03:33:32 PM »

Because WMD's where the whole reason for the invasion, not that Sadam was a "bad guy". WMD's were sold (con) to the world as the number 1 threat, etc. etc. Blair is having a very very hard time defending the Iraq war and WMD's.

I can see a vote of no confidence going against him soon. And that will be the end of UK's support for Bush. Followed by the gradual withdrawl of UK forces.

~~...-Gixer~~

Nakhui · « **Reply #21 on:** January 21, 2004, 03:55:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I think they exist....and I think they exist in syria now. Of course I dont have any proof of that its just a gut instinct.

Since your instincts are so accurate...Please tell me what next weeks power ball numbers are.

By the way... it doesn't bother you that every... every... bit of evidence that Powel went to the UN has since been proven completely and absolutely wrong.

There's WMD...
Look here's evidence A to prove it.

Everyone looks at A and turns out A is not WMD

oko Look here's evidence B to prove it..

Everyone looks at B, and nope B is not WMD

Look C is proof!

Nope C is not WMD.

Come on...

This Administration's track record for what they say is true and what has been proven to be true is 0!!!

100% wrong.

notice only the people on this BBS are saying there are WMD buried in the sand dunes...

That's not coming out of the White House anymore...
They've shut up... they aren't winning that lie.

now it's... Saddam was a BAAAD BAAAD MAN..

The world is a better place now!

That's an opinion... is it really a better place?

Can't prove that right or wrong - it's subjective.

500 Americans dead... 9000 wounded and mamed...
10 of thousands iraqis dead
Practically Martial Law in every US air port..
US economy in the toilet...

Sure... the world is a better place... for the oil companies.

Cha Ching!!
Cha Ching!!

Gas prices went up up because of the war and terror... notice they aren't going back down.... oil product is higher than pre-war levels... demand is moderate... yet... prices are still high.

Cha Ching!
Cha Ching!

Bend over Amereeeka!
Time to drill for more OIL!!

LOL

ramzey · « **Reply #22 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:13:50 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
150 mortar shells loaded with mustard gas are not WMD. it's just redecueless.

lie, noone of mortar shells was loaded by mustard gas, today experts claim was no gas inside ;-)

and btw mortars shells are not WMD, its short range tactical weapon

Murdr · « **Reply #23 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:14:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Because WMD's where the whole reason for the invasion, not that Sadam was a "bad guy".

Lol, wrong. Read on.
September 12, 2002 Address to UN

Several paragraphs on human rights. Regardless, to me it is enough that he jerked around the US and the world in not keeping the cease fire agreement. What should happen when a cease fire agreement is broken? Duh!

12 years was pleanty of time for Saddam to choose alternatives. Blame the enforcer, instead of the law breaker...yea that makes sense.

john9001 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:14:54 PM »

the Iraq people are angry that Saddam is being held as a POW, they want him tried as a WAR CRIMINAL

you poor misguided liberals

Dowding · « **Reply #25 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:17:59 PM »

There won't be a vote of no confidence against Blair, apart from the general elections in 2005. But like I've said before, Blair's greatest strength is that the alternative is piss poor. He's an actor and a fraud but he's the best we've got. The shame.

Unless something catastrophic happens, I'd say Blair's position is fairly secure.

BTW, what many Americans don't realise is that Blair is not just taking a beating over Iraq. He's getting burnt over Foundation Hospitals, University top up fees and to a lesser extent the state of the railways. And I'd say the military aren't exactly ecstatic about the Strategic Defence Review either.

"Right you get less soldiers, and a bit more technology... apart from bullet proof vests and armoured vehicles. But shhh about that part. So where was I... oh yes... less soldiers... but we want troops in this country... and this one... and this one... and maybe this one if the US asks. Oh, and if the firemen go on strike again you will be expected to provide coverage again. We call it the SDR. And it's completely bonkers."

ramzey · « **Reply #26 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:20:22 PM »

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Originally posted by whels
do u guys really understand what the size of WMD cache is, they are looking for? i dont think u do. I think they said all the weapons they are looking for could fit inside 1 2 story building. now put that building in a place the size of California.

now u dont know what the building looks like, it could be above ground or below. none of the locals will tell u where it is.

now go find that 1 building, with only 200 people or less looking with you.

reports are Saddam had over 300 munitions dumps (huge),
so far we have only been able to complete looking at them
by 1/3 or less.

after allmost year after war, who will belive itys Saddam WMD, when they find couple canes of mustard gas?

anyway most fo countries have chemical weapon since early 20's XX century. So couple cans, shels, or whatever they find cannot be something too danger. Special when Saddam has no resources to reach any U.S state ;-)

lets face it, its conquer not liberation war

ramzey · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:21:48 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
the Iraq people are angry that Saddam is being held as a POW, they want him tried as a WAR CRIMINAL

you poor misguided liberals

propaganda

ramzey · « **Reply #28 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:24:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Murdr
.................... Regardless, to me it is enough that he jerked around the US and the world in not keeping the cease fire agreement.

so next one is Brasil? for fingerprints case? lol

Murdr · « **Reply #29 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:27:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Nakhui
500 Americans dead... 9000 wounded and mamed...

The cost of lives shouldnt be minumized in any way. These casualties are for the entire war, and rebuilding. However this seems like a strange point to post on a board for a game that revolves around a war where many times more lives were lost in a single battle.

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10 of thousands iraqis dead

As compaired to the hundreds of thousands murdered by their former goverment.

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Practically Martial Law in every US air port..

Gee, doesnt that have something to do with 9/11/2001, and nothing to do with Iraq?

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US economy in the toilet...

Gee, didnt that have something to do with 9/11/2001, and the bubble bursting on the over inflated tech market before the current administration. But then again if economic growth rates at a 20 year high give you this opinion, there is no pleasing you anyways.