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Offline Fishu

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« on: November 03, 2000, 06:00:00 PM »
 http://members.aol.com/dheitm8612/gtbolt2.htm

Theres a few camoflages and markings of few captured allied planes by germans...
I like some of those camoflages that USAAF planes doesn't usually have  
tho.. that swastika is wee bit oversized and looks ugly in the tail.. (makes them look like zeppelins in 1916.. that cross were big looking in the tail too)

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2000, 06:07:00 PM »
A swastika looks ugly no matter where its painted.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2000, 09:47:00 PM »
Although I've seen it before, I'll say it again:

WHAT A VILE THING TO DO TO A B-17!!!  
(my first mad smiley )

...but interesting site.

IC

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2000, 09:57:00 PM »
 I had a book, "KG-200:The Untold Story" and they had a several B17's and B-24's they put togther from ditched aircraft that they used for spec-ops. They lost one of the B-24's in France do to an accident and all were lost. I traded the book (out of print) to a guy as part of a deal for a CH FFX stick. And we don't have FFX <weeps>...

 But yeah. P-38's, P-51's, P-47's, they had them just as much as the Allies had thier stuff. Same in the Pacific. Not everyone wants to ride it in and make a large craterous explosion like John Wayne or Steve McQueen would in the movies.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2000, 10:05:00 PM »
anyone knows a site with axis planes captured by allied with allied markings? did the allied flew captured planes against the germans?

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2000, 10:36:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Animal:
anyone knows a site with axis planes captured by allied with allied markings? did the allied flew captured planes against the germans?

At least brits did.. not sure of bombing or killing fighters, but I think those were mainly used for behind the lines commando operations.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2000, 04:53:00 AM »
Animal,

The RAF had the '1426 (Enemy Aircraft Circus) Flight which was formed at RAF Duxford and then moved to RAF Collyweston (now part of RAF Wittering).  Their duty was to familiarise RAF pilots as to how axis aircraft looked and operated and they would go to various airfields around Britain, hence the 'circus'.  

The aircraft used were:- Bf109E-3, Bf109F-4, Bf109G-2, Bf109G-6, Bf109G-14, Bf110C-5, Fw190A-4, He111H-3, Hs129B-1, Ju88A-5, Ju88A-6, Ju88R-1, Ju88S-1...

Here are a few pics of the planes at Collyweston.
   
   

Other RAF squadrons in mainland Europe would perhaps have one axis aircraft (only about 20-30 sqns).  This would be used as what was called a 'hack' - recon or whatever they needed it for.  These would be any axis aircraft that they could make use of, such as Ju52, Ju87, Ju88, 190, 109 etc... One Hurricane squadron used their Ju87 in the Anti-tank role and it would fly along side the other Hurricanes.

Hope this is of use...

Regards

'Nexx'



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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2000, 10:39:00 AM »
My Great Uncle was a wireless operator in a Shorts Sunderland and his plane was attacked by a sole captured British plane (Spitfire I think). The Sunderland was set on fire and he was badly burnt - he still has the scars today.

Also, the Germans used captured B17s to sneak into an Allied B17 formation and then drop bombs on the formation. I saw pictures somewhere of the holes in a B17 wing caused by the German bombs.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2000, 02:27:00 AM »
 
Quote
Originally posted by iculus:
WHAT A VILE THING TO DO TO A B-17!!!  


Tell me about it! And this is even more disgusting!!!!
 
Me 262 A-1a/U4, W.Nr. 170083, 54th ADS originally named Wilma Jeanne when captured by the Americans. This machine was fitted with a 50 mm MK 214 cannon.

What a vulgar thing to do to such a beutiful warbird.
"Wilma Jeanne" indeed!


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