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Offline Citabria

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« on: December 07, 2001, 11:40:00 PM »
would get more use in the main arenas than any fancy foriegn bomber.

and they would too.
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Offline Raubvogel

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2001, 12:14:00 AM »
We already have a US heavy and medium bomber.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2001, 12:44:00 AM »
I'm sure you'll see em eventually.

What i'd give for a B-25H with the 75mm  :) My fave bomber in WB

Pyro said once that a bomber is equal to 4 fighters in time spent. That's why there are so few. I'm sure eventually we'll see plenty of them represented, including of course the Mitchell and Liberator.

Whether the Americanki already have x or y bomber is personally irrelevant to me. B-25 was one sweet ride in WB and I'd hate to see it get overlooked just because we already have the B-26.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2001, 03:18:00 AM »
Maybe someday we'll have B-25's and B-24's skip bombing convoys on the ocean aye?  Now that would be  :cool:.

Not sure but thought I remember on comarisons between B-24's and B-17's: B-24 carried greater bomb load, B-24 had higher speed, greater range, but more fragile wings?

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2001, 04:41:00 AM »
They could always do the B24 or B25 in RAF markings, and the B25 even in Soviet markings.  Eventually I would like to see the B25H!   :)  I would like to see both of these aircraft very much, but a Luftwaffe and Japanese bomber is higher priority imo.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2001, 06:15:00 AM »
B25 in RAF markings? mmmmmm  :)

 

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2001, 07:05:00 AM »
Rheinmetall MK 108 30MM Cannon. That is my answer... With so many buffs(1.09) I will also need a G6/U4

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2001, 08:21:00 AM »
Yeah, B25H!  I couldn't care less what countries have what bombers already or who made the B25H...I want it.   :)


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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2001, 09:28:00 AM »
HT, Pyro, Superfly, Nate, Yankee, Ronnie;

DO NOT listen to any of these pretenders.

What you want to put in is a B-25C, 345th "Air Apaches", 501st "Black Panthers", strafer nose. As soon as possible too, please. You know, none of us are getting any younger... hint, hint, hint. BTW, his birthday is Dec. 30.  :)


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Bring the B-25C, 345th "Air Apaches", 501st "Black Panthers", strafer nose to ACES HIGH!

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2001, 10:54:00 AM »
yes! a B24 and a B25  :cool:
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »
or why not b29? i need something to spend my perks on. (cant stand that useless flying sausage with jet engines.)

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2001, 05:24:00 PM »
Please folks at HTC, pay no attention to Toad.  Alas his memory is failing him and in his old age he has become completely senile.  He meant to say "Hear, hear, bring the B25H!", and it's good to see that he did have a moment of clarity in there as well.  That being when he offered to buy you booze and bbq for your efforts in bringing the B25H to AH!  Sorry for the misunderstanding, and my heart goes out to Toad!   :p  :D


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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2001, 07:49:00 PM »
H model.. BAH!

The 345th had one squadron comprised solely of G's and H's. The 75mm used a "Christmas Tree" sight right in front of the pilot for aiming. Ask any of them... it was pretty much worthless for hitting anything EXCEPT when used one way:

They had success against shipping if they got down right on the wave tops.. literally with the props  a few feet above the water and drove straight at the side of a ship. They squeezed off at the same range you would open with .50's.. and then they would get hits. Otherwise, you were just wasting ammo.

(So, forget about hitting a moving tank with it. I think it had 21 rounds too; not enough to do much in AH. Look at the tank guns.)

These are the same tactics the Strafer Nose guys used, with one big difference (especially applicable to AH):

When the .50's all cut loose, the AA gunners in the open gun tubs usually lost interest in tracking and shooting real fast.

So the B-25 would cross the ship at an angle, dropping 1 500 lb just before they pulled up (skip bomb), another as they started the pull up and the last one as they crossed the deck. This usually gave you at least one hit and the concussion alone from any near misses would often sink a lightly built freighter. It would spring plates and cause leaks even on armored warships. The G/H's attacked this way as well.


My Dad flew a brand spanking new H from Savannah, GA to Nadzab, New Guinea. It flies pretty much exactly the way a C would.

The Strafer Nose C's and D's were much more effective hitting airfields and low-level ground targets than the G/H 75mm was. Besides that, the 8 .50's would actually cut the Japanese coastal barges in half in one pass. The 75mm had a hard time hitting those.

In AH, the "strafer nose" -25's would be MUCH more useful in our strat situation.

Bring the 345th/501st B-25C Strafer Nose to AH! (and I'll try to bring my Dad to the next con!)
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2001, 11:07:00 PM »
like it or not the core reason bombers arent flown as much is because many are bored with them. there is only 3 effective bombers in AH and the only ones that get used regularly. most people grow tired fo flying the same airplane quickly.

if your going to add a buff that will get used add the b24 and b25
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2001, 11:19:00 PM »
Anyone have the vital specs on the Liberator?  (i. e.- bombload, defensive weaponry, speed, range, etc...)  I do know it was one of the most survivable bombers in the war, but that could have been because the types of missions it flew.  Or not...