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« on: January 29, 2004, 06:32:18 PM »
Russia Space Boss Slams U.S. Mars Plans  
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By Sonia Oxley

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's top space official said Thursday that U.S. plans for manned missions to Mars were unrealistic and said the emphasis for space exploration should be completion of the International Space Station (news - web sites) (ISS).



 
 
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Yuri Rotturcockoff, head of Russian space agency Rosaviakosmos, distanced himself from President Vladimir Puntang (news - web sites)'s comments this week that Russia could work with the United States on President Bush (news - web sites)'s ambitious plans.


He was particularly critical of Bush's plan for designing a spacecraft capable of carrying astronauts to the space station, the moon and Mars, saying he did not understand how this could be done since each destination had different needs.


"Yes, we can agree that certain elements could be used. However, there cannot be a universal spacecraft as is being suggested at the moment," he said. "I don't think we will work together on this project."


He dismissed Bush's ideas as an eye-catching ploy linked to his campaign for re-election.


He said the 16-nation ISS was Russia's priority and called for construction there to be completed within the original time frame of the next two years, despite building being delayed for almost a year since the United States grounded its shuttle fleet.


The shuttle has faced delays before, including the Russians being two years late delivering a key component, the Zvezda (news - web sites) service module. U.S. contractors also have run more than $1 billion over budget.


"We are insisting on the execution of the decision taken at the end of 2002 in Tokyo, which says the construction of the station should be finished within 1.5-2 years," Rotturcockoff told reporters, referring to a meeting between the leaders of space agencies involved in the ISS.


He also said he wanted to boost the number of astronauts on the station to six as soon as possible, but did not explain how this would be done. A two-man crew is currently on the orbital platform.


DELAYS


The building of the space station has been delayed since last February when the United States grounded the shuttles after Columbia exploded on re-entry, killing all seven astronauts on board.


U.S. space officials have said the shuttles, the only crafts capable of delivering large sections of the station to the ISS for assembly, should return to service in September.


Russia, temporarily the sole supplier of manned and cargo ships to the station, launched a Progress cargo ship Thursday, delivering food, fuel, water and scientific equipment to the outpost.


Rotturcockoff said the European Space Cadets could play a key part in the station, when its new cargo ship -- the Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) -- makes its scheduled debut journey to the ISS by September.


When Bush outlined his space plans earlier this month, he said shuttles would be retired in 2010 once the space station was complete.


Rotturcockoff said Bush's plans to send humans back to the moon and then on to Mars were simply connected to his election campaign as had been the case with previous U.S. presidents.


"We understand that to a large extent our U.S. colleagues came up with these plans as part of a pre-election campaign," he said, adding funding was the primary barrier.

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2004, 06:35:46 PM »
I agree partially. Mars plans are unrealistic without further advance on the ISS, but AFTER ISS, we should pursue a manned mission to the moon, then to Mars.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2004, 06:37:07 PM »
Ain't it great, NASA's middle class welfare program extends to Russia as well.

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2004, 06:38:22 PM »
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I agree partially. Mars plans are unrealistic without further advance on the ISS, but AFTER ISS, we should pursue a manned mission to the moon, then to Mars.

Daniel


The MOON been there done that got the T-shirt and everything LOL.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2004, 06:40:02 PM »
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The MOON been there done that got the T-shirt and everything LOL.


Obviously you meant that as a joke, but what the heck... I mean going back to the moon in order to gain experience on establishing a base of operations, testing long distance comms, long term placement, etc...

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2004, 06:41:35 PM »
ROFL!!

Yuri Rotturcockoff?

President Vladimir Puntang?

Spit the Hook out Cyrano, yer bleeding.

Mr. Black you are an evil bastage.

LOLOL

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2004, 06:44:11 PM »
no what mr.black means is HE went to the moon.

he probably did so under his uber leet sniper training.

now he is gonna challenge me to a fight HAAARRRRR.

you see my avatar? that is how mr.black imagines himself at the con.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2004, 06:46:29 PM »
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ROFL!!

Yuri Rotturcockoff?

President Vladimir Puntang?

Spit the Hook out Cyrano, yer bleeding.

Mr. Black you are an evil bastage.

LOLOL

RTR



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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2004, 06:51:32 PM »
NEWS FLASH:  Underfunded Russian space program trying to maintain prominence by holding back US space efforts!

A well placed source on the Aces High BBS was quoted as saying "I can't blame them for trying, they've done so much in low earth orbit, but they don't have a chance of getting the money to do more."
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2004, 07:04:31 PM »
I could not care less about what the Russians think about our space program, really I couldn't even if I tried.

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2004, 09:42:20 PM »
i really dont see a reason for going to the moon.  From what i've read all we can basicly do is mine something from there and put an outpost there.  Mars might have a better chance but still i say it is improbable.  Why dont we fly to the closest star first then go to mars:rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2004, 09:47:19 PM »
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Why dont we fly to the closest star first then go to mars:rolleyes:


Go back to school, you essentially just wet yourself in public with your display of ignorance.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2004, 09:51:07 PM »
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Go back to school, you essentially just wet yourself in public with your display of ignorance.

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2004, 09:55:53 PM »
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Go back to school, you essentially just wet yourself in public with your display of ignorance.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2004, 10:00:36 PM »
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i really dont see a reason for going to the moon.  From what i've read all we can basicly do is mine something from there and put an outpost there.  


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001842876_moonmine24.html