Thoughts on States' rights and abortion.

[lasersailor184]

I believe that every man, woman, child has the right to life initially.


Everyone deserves a chance.

[Chairboy]

I assume that most people making proclamations here are pregnant women, right?  If not, what business of yours is it?

[mietla]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
I thought we already figured out this silly states right thing about 140 years ago.

That is really profound

[mietla]

Originally posted by Chairboy
I assume that most people making proclamations here are pregnant women, right?  If not, what business of yours is it?

Sure, only the murderers should have a say in whether murder is legal or not.

[Chairboy]

If you're saying that people who get abortions are committing murder, then why haven't the 'pro-life' people persuaded the courts to send them all to jail?

[texace]

Because the federal government does not have a set date as to when a human life starts. No document says"Human life starts at conception so abortion is murder". Nothing says anything like that. Why do you think pro-lifers have their panties in a bunch?

I myself am pro-choice. I feel that a woman should have the freedom do do whatever the hell she wants to do with her body, as long as the second party (ie, the father) agrees with it. This means that, yes, even if the parents do not want the child, they should be free to abort it. I've been called a man who supports murder and much, much worse before, so I really don't care.

Pro-lifers hate abortion, but support the death penalty. Isn't that somewhat of a double standard?

[Gunslinger]

texace I think there is a big difference between abortion and execution.  The only thing they have in common is a life is taken

I think woman have a choice....they have a choice to keep their legs closed.  If they didnt have that choice than I'd say yes get an abortion.  

death row inmates also have a choice.  They have a choice not to do what ever it is they do.  

Life is all about choices.  

But now back to thread topice is it the federal govt. right/responsibility to tell states that they can/cant do this?

[mietla]

Originally posted by Chairboy
If you're saying that people who get abortions are committing murder, then why haven't the 'pro-life' people persuaded the courts to send them all to jail?

Originally posted by Chairboy
I assume that most people making proclamations here are pregnant women, right? If not, what business of yours is it?

I'm questioning your premise that only those "involved", should have a say on the issue. If only pregnant women have a say on abortion, only the murderers should have a say on murder. After all, as to pointed out "what business of yours is it"?

In short, your argument is utter nonsense.

[Chairboy]

Even thought I pulled a Kappa and didn't actually say what my opinion was, I'll concede the point and just limit my input on this to 'If you're not a pregnant woman, you shouldn't think you have a say in the issue.'

No edit required on my part.

[kappa]

Im sorry miko.. I must..

Im going to pull a chairboy and say something off topic that is really ignorant, argumentative, worthless, and very unconstructive.... like:

You should have no say unless your a pregnant woman and your son's name is chairboy..

Or perhaps, whats your opioion if the woman shaved her head and killed her husband just to have a baby??

[lasersailor184]

Gunslinger pretty much summed it up perfectly.  It's a human once the stem cells become a brain.  And every human has the right to live.


I see it as not a right or not for the woman, but a right for the baby inside of her.

[Sandman]

The host's rights trump the parasite.