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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2004, 06:09:19 PM »
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 I do not worry about guns or gun crime.

 Hell a woman and her doughter where beaten to death with a tree branch two blocks from my home.

Guns are not the problem.

I am glad I have the freedom to own them though.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2004, 12:33:20 AM »
Yeah, but if it had been a REGISTERED tree branch, they'd probably have the perps by now. Heck, they might not even have been allowed to carry any wood if they had priors.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2004, 08:30:15 AM »
When tree braches are outlawed, only outlaws will have tree branches!!

People dont kill people, tree branches do!!

I'll give up my tree branch when they pry it from my cold dead hands!!



Maybe we should just strongly enforce the laws we have and use the death penalty for murderers?

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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2004, 08:52:58 AM »
firearms are dangerous... cars are dangerous... power tools are dangerous...  accidents happen.   If a thing did not present some danger to society then there would be no point in protecting the rights of people to own and use it.   You simply can't ban everything that may be dangerous or can cause injury or death if missused.   The good must be weighed with the bad.   Guns prevent crime, tyranny and make people less vulnerable to those who would harm them.... they protect those who are least likely able to protect themselves like the old and weak and females.  

 there is also the matter of personal freedom... who really need to swim?   banning it would save thousands of lives.... who needs a personal chainsaw?  Who needs to climb rocks and what about the danger to the rescuers?  the list is endless.

What do you guys mean by gunshow sales?   You have to fill out the same paperwork at gunshows and the same waiting period as anywere else... the guy who sells it to you has to be a licenced dealer.

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2004, 10:34:17 AM »
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As badly as I hate to say this, I think the Gun Show law should be passed. It would close a lot of loopholes. I don't have any figures to back this up, but I would venture a guess that most guns used in crimes are not bought at traditional Gun Shops, they are bought on the street.


2001 crime stats show that only 1% of guns used in crimes were bought at gun shows.  Guns shows are still subject to Federal gun laws.  There is no loophole.
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2004, 10:41:44 AM »
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What do you guys mean by gunshow sales?   You have to fill out the same paperwork at gunshows and the same waiting period as anywere else... the guy who sells it to you has to be a licenced dealer.

Laz, you apparently never have been to a Gun Show. There are more guns sold and traded on the floor and in the parking lot than those sold by the Licensed Firearm dealers.
You want to buy some illegal ammo? Just about any kind of tricked out ammo from armour piercing to piano wire loaded 12ga slugs can be found. Kits to convert semi auto to full auto are sold openly at booths while guys standing near by are selling Tek 9's.
I believe in Gun Owners Rights, but these are not just trade shows for the weekend hunter. Do I think  closing Gun Shows will be the cure all for illegal weapons? Not by a long shot.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2004, 11:08:30 AM »
Why is it that the board is spammed monthly with copy-paste sections from the Armed Moron, trying to make a point or something?
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2004, 11:22:32 AM »
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 We have a law in Cali that makes it so you have to do the 10 day waite for any guns bought at a show. It is not a nation wide law.

You do not sell guns in the parking lot. There are police oficers everywhere and they would be unhappy with you. I would have no problems with this law being nation wide.
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2004, 11:24:38 AM »
Thud
 People in the US, and many on this forum like to hear about armed citizens saving themselves with firearms. You can not depend on the regular news to report these.

You do not like it don't read it.

P.S. being from the nether regions, you have no say in US law so keep your opinions to yourself. I and I bet most gun people on this board are tired of euro bananas telling us how bad we are cause we have the freedom to own guns.
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2004, 12:20:21 PM »
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Thud
 People in the US, and many on this forum like to hear about armed citizens saving themselves with firearms. You can not depend on the regular news to report these.


Sure, the biased perverted leftist liberal media etc..... :lol
 

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P.S. being from the nether regions, you have no say in US law so keep your opinions to yourself. I and I bet most gun people on this board are tired of euro bananas telling us how bad we are cause we have the freedom to own guns.


Sure, we just jealous of you gun folk'. We criticize and patronize you all the time but deep in our hearts we want every moron on every streetcorner to have a gun at the ready too. Maybe one day we'll have a proper constitution too and our children will finally be able to blow their brains out when they break open the gun cabinet or are busy cleaning their first revolver their loving dad gave them. Sure...
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2004, 12:28:07 PM »
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Why is it that the board is spammed monthly with copy-paste sections from the Armed Moron,


 
"A 73-year-old St. Louis County, Missouri, man looked up from his television one night to see an armed man holding 4-inch shears to his wife’s throat"

What a moron; why would he try to to protech his wife???
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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2004, 12:32:17 PM »
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"A 73-year-old St. Louis County, Missouri, man looked up from his television one night to see an armed man  holding 4-inch shears to his wife’s throat"


Would that be the 'armed citizen' the title of your little magazine is referring to?
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2004, 12:36:47 PM »
Yeah maybe you Euromorons will get smart but I doubt it.


You don't like our gun laws or the people who own guns, that's your right, I think, maybe, or whatever you gov says. We could care less what you think. No go away... Sadly I am sure there is a bit of truth to your sarcasm.
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2004, 12:37:01 PM »
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Why is it that the board is spammed monthly with copy-paste sections from the Armed Moron, trying to make a point or something?

Public education.  The media suppresses these stories in favor of things like Columbine or postal workers.  We need to get the truth out there.
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2004, 12:41:03 PM »
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Would that be the 'armed citizen' the title of your little magazine is referring to?


No.

In all probability, it would be the "armed felon" with a bunch of priors.

Or "armed criminal" if you prefer.
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