Author Topic: Wash your mouth out (Read 3186 times)

A_Clown · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2004, 02:08:39 PM »

I have seen several "induced warps" suspects lately, It seems to be a growing trend.

I was in a small battle w/ several wingmen around, we killed all but 1 spit, so now theres bout 4 of us on this lil spitty, i'm the closest & closing. When I get almost in gunrange, I hear over range radio- "watch out- he warps when you get a shot lined up" sure enuff- he dissapears for about 2 seconds, then reappears after a direction change. Now naturally its gonna be hard to trick 4 guys even when yer cheating, he died.

Thats just the most memorable instance, but unfortunately theres a few bad apples out there who arent capable of learning to outfly the opponant & have resorted to feeble tech cheats to try & increase their odds of survival. Seems to be increasing, which means it will be more likely to be exposed. I hope-

A_Clown

HavocTM · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2004, 02:12:45 PM »

I notice that the guys at HTC are quiet on this thread, so I assume either nothing can be done or they don't care.

Oh well, at least they care about whether we say naughty words.

boxboy28 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2004, 02:45:25 PM »

In before they lock.....umm havent you guys been around long enough tp know that and disscussion of cheating here will be locked ASAP

HavocTM · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2004, 02:54:58 PM »

LOL I can almost feel the lock coming...

My whole point is that if we are muting folks and banning them because of language, because it offends paying customers, we should mute and ban cheaters along the same lines.

I mean, isn't cheating covered in the TOS? I would almost consider cheating 'illegal' in that it circumvents the code.

On thing is certain though, someone will always find a better way to cheat.

humble · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2004, 03:17:50 PM »

hehe....not locked yet....

I've flown flight sims for 10 years now and can't think of more than 2 or 3 true hacks...but I'm sure there are more...all in all they do a good job of policing the game. If you think you've seen or been the victim ... film it ... and send it to skuzzy ... absolutley no good comes from BBS on this...

Best one I ever saw in AH was F6 carpet bombing...needless to say we dont see that one much...so I guess they can & will do something about it.

HavocTM · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2004, 03:21:59 PM »

The problem with filming, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that the filming process is not simply capturing what is happening on the screen, it simply captures data of where your planes are, their type and what speed they are going. The film viewer then re-renders the battle in real time.

This was a problem when we had the folks who were making their icons and their planes 'disappear'. Even though you couldn't see their icon, for example, it would show up on the film because the film recorder didn't actually record what was showing on the screen.

So I think the answer is awareness and I think that's what the forum is for.

Rude · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2004, 03:29:15 PM »

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Originally posted by HavocTM
The problem with filming, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that the filming process is not simply capturing what is happening on the screen, it simply captures data of where your planes are, their type and what speed they are going. The film viewer then re-renders the battle in real time.

This was a problem when we had the folks who were making their icons and their planes 'disappear'. Even though you couldn't see their icon, for example, it would show up on the film because the film recorder didn't actually record what was showing on the screen.

So I think the answer is awareness and I think that's what the forum is for.

You're wrong

HavocTM · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2004, 03:43:28 PM »

Bwahahah!

Which part?

A_Clown · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2004, 04:20:04 PM »

I'll be filming any plane that is disappearing/re-appearing.

A_Clown

TweetyBird · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2004, 04:49:22 PM »

I've played all kinds of internet games, and every single one has already banned players for hacking the program. It would be idiotic to believe AH is immune to such.

Now that said, the two times I've griped about cheating, playing the film back revealed I didn't see what I thought I saw. One time there was TWO p51's and another there were TWO smoking la7's. Both times, I thought I was fighting a single plane (great SA eh?)

As for as the film I posted, I really do think it was just a warp. I posted it because it was so convenient, it was funny. If you think about it, with net delay, it would be impossible to time an intentional warp that perfectly. He wasn't seeing the exact angle I was seeing. If fact he probably never was where my front end showed him.

There's no doubt some people have hacked the front end (they get around it in other games - why not here?). But they're probably still not that good and have little effect on the game as a whole.

Worse would be unjustly accusing a player of cheating. The one time I did that (the other time I just grumbled over the squad channel ), I apologized to the player.

I think its safer to let HTC worry about any hacking.

Octavius · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2004, 04:56:18 PM »

Umm, I'm with Box on this one. Detailing a "how-to cheat" in the general is, well, bad

Arlo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2004, 05:09:43 PM »

Geez. Another paranoia-rumor "It's a proven fact because it's been filmed and I've heard other players say this ..." thread. Complete with "HTC is ignoring this thread so it must have some validity" thrown in to make things more believable.

tapakeg · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2004, 06:36:50 PM »

So, why doesn't anyone try to duplicate it?

Two people go to DA try to duplicate it while filming. Then post the films.

Tapakeg

hitech · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2004, 08:00:14 PM »

Simple because it's always "some one else" doing it.

HiTech

WilldCrd · « **Reply #29 on:** February 06, 2004, 08:16:55 PM »

Cable modem cheat hhmmmm...i could be wrong BUT, i really do not think u could get it to work and make it advantageous becouse of several factorsa that i won't explain here {aint gonna teach ya how DUH!] im just speaking as a technician and i deal with em all tha time....yes u can turn it on and off, is it advantageous nope, can it hurt your connection and possibly skewer somthin up u betcha:aok just my humble 2 cents worth.

P.S. could they catch ya if u use a cheat? umm if u was smart enough to figure that out ya wouldn't have to cheat!:rofl

one more note: everything that is done , spoken, or typed in the game can be seen, heard and read by the " POWERS THAT BE"

i know iknow but, some people need PRACTICLE ADVICE!!:cool: