*hugs Beetle*
Indeed the frogs have it all wrong! i's actually Septante 70 and Nonante 90 (the Swiss use Octante for 80, but for some reason we don't).
grimbergen is pretty nice, you should try some "Vieux temps", it's about the same, but a little dryer. When you pick up a "Kriek" (Biere au cassis) make sure you get the one from "Linds" or a "Tindemans" those are still "artisanal" (hand made?) compared to the factory produced "Belle Vue".
Funny thing is I didn't drink Beer before i moved to UK in 1999 ... i'll take a London Ale, or any Bitter over what we have here. you guys spoiled me... I like my beer flat & warmish

I should be meeting up with Stringer (AH player) in March, i'm looking forward to send him back home with a splitting headache to remember
