Author Topic: Das Boot! (Read 1521 times)

VWE · « **on:** February 11, 2004, 03:24:22 PM »

So... will we see shadows lurking below the water line in AHII?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2004, 04:44:21 PM »

LMAO! What a great idea. It would be hard to pull off well though.

Submarines were hard to pilot.

VWE · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2004, 05:53:15 PM »

U-boats were talked about for AHI so if they are going to include fluid dynamics in AHII periscope hunting may be a new twist thrown into the mix.

hawker238 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2004, 07:22:38 PM »

I think we still have to perk em....

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2004, 07:56:57 PM »

Yes, I guess they should be launchable from a port, with spawns spread around. Perk GV's or so.

Plus the standard submarines rules would apply.

I.E. They can only spend roughly 1 hour underwater. They are 2x slower underwater. Torpedos would be hard to aim with.

But then you'd have to incorporate depth charges, porcupines and engine toggle with a listening station.

VWE · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2004, 08:09:41 PM »

Yeah, but you put them into the game at what ever cost and they will be used... I've got so many unused vehicle perkies. And I'd like some AAA guns and a single 5" deck gun!

GScholz · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2004, 08:46:23 PM »

As long as the CVs are racing around at 50 knots it going to be difficult to attack them with 15/7 knot subs with 40/30 knot torpedos.

Glasses · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2004, 09:11:21 PM »

If they put subs in AHII am there dude!

You can call me Frigatten Kapitaen Glassoid then

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2004, 11:02:46 PM »

Subs were quite speedy, on the surface.

They engine used up a lot of oxygen. So the hatches needed to be open.

So when they dived they switched to battery operated engines. Much less more powerful, much quieter, but it got the job done.

Dowding · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2004, 07:37:12 AM »

Subs were not speedy on the surface. I thought they were slower than practically every military surface vessel afloat. They could only keep up with your slower merchant vessels.

mars01 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2004, 09:41:17 AM »

IF they have subs, they need to have large transport CVs because with the limited CV groups now I would think it would be a long time till you actually see the enemy.

VWE · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2004, 10:11:49 AM »

Well seeing as we like to place late war items before early war items lets have the type XXI

Angus · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2004, 11:01:44 AM »

Typical German/US sub: 18 knots on surface, 5-7 knots submerged.
Mid war German subs could draw air through a special device (schnorkel) wich enabled them to cruise with diesel engines at periscope depth.
Late war German Uber-subs could go underwater with 16 kts for some hours

frank3 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2004, 11:03:59 AM »

That pic of your could be very well Aces high vwe, it really looks the same!

Rasker · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2004, 08:39:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Subs were not speedy on the surface. I thought they were slower than practically every military surface vessel afloat. They could only keep up with your slower merchant vessels.

The German subs could do up to 18 knots on the surface, and the better US subs up to 21. Back when I owned "Aces of the Deep", I once caught a convoys escort of two 14 knot corvettes spread out far enough that I surfaced and ran full out for the convoy, dodging shellfire (this was daytime) all the way.

The US subs would use their speed in conjunction with excellent radar to do end runs around Japanese convoys, submerging and waiting in their paths. The Germans would do same thing as a part of coordinated wolfpack tactics.

Hmm, supply convoys....mwaahaahaahaa! Can anyone say, North Africa-Med arena?

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