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Offline Octavius

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« on: February 11, 2004, 11:43:22 PM »
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Comments?  Feel free to post a reply in that thread.  I must rally support for the P39 cause. :cool:
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 12:06:33 AM »
I think the P39 would have been a war-winner if it had a 20mm cannon instead of the 37mm, the same engine the P51 had, and same type of airscoop.

But you might as well have a P51 then :)

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 01:28:09 AM »
Before you ask P-39 as a plane that can fly as Russian fighter I'd prefere to see following aircrafts:
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  • Yak-1, Yak-3
  • MiG-1, MiG-3


I think they much more suitable for Early/Middle war Eastern front then P-39
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2004, 01:58:34 AM »
Before anything else, they should throw in variants of planes they already have.

Early war P38s for example, you'll not only get a more steamlined P38 but you'll also get your 37mm. :D
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2004, 02:42:48 AM »
Personally, I'd like to see LaGG-3 before P-39 for the Eastern front events and CT-setups. Though I sure like to see it some point I think VVS-plane set needs planes more badly then the american one.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 05:19:21 AM »
P-39D-2 with V-1710-63 rated at 1325 hp mil power and 1550 hp WEP, looks very nice :). Weights are ranging from 3550 kg ( P-39D as tested in USSR) to 3236 kg (special lightened modification of P-39Q  stripped of the armor). But speeds and climb at WEP setting are questionable. P-39D made 498 kph at sea level at mil power of 1150 hp, P-39Q made 530-540 kph at sea level at WEP of 1420 hp. P-39D-2 at 1550 hp should be able to make something around 545-550 kph. And absolutely no info about climb at WEP power :(. And last but not least - plane turned very well - 17,7-18,7 seconds for P-39D, but radius and speed are not known.

Fast, agile and very deadly :).

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 07:24:56 AM »
Or something like a P-63?

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 07:44:38 AM »
Still want to see a p40-n.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2004, 09:57:47 AM »
I think in light of the fact that we are top Heavy in American Iron and that their are many countrys and plane types that are are a bit more neaded would tend to put the P39 very low on my wish list for the CT or the SEA. I would not mind seeing it eveuntaly but in the short term I can think of at least a Dozen p,anes I would rather see first to plug holes in our plane set.

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2004, 10:13:23 AM »
Exactly how important was the P-39?...not just #'s...but impact?

From my limited knowledge it played a huge role at a critical time and was a plane of choice for some of the elite gaurds units. Even though it's an "american" plane it really isn't from a historical perspective...I'd say it was almost as important to the russians at the time of it's introduction as the P40 was to the flying tigers.

Again, my knowledge is limited to feel free to correct this opinion if incorrect.

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2004, 10:26:09 AM »
Apox. 10,000 P39's were built and about 5,000 went to the Russians I beleave, over all it was avery small percentage of the total soviet fighter force, presently in AH we have No early war Soviet fighters modeled at all, I much rahter see a realy Russian fighter than the P39.

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2004, 11:38:11 AM »
Mig1 - Yes
Mig3 - Yes

Ki-84 First, however....very very first

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2004, 07:46:28 PM »
Yes yes, I understand everyone would rather have 'plane x' over 'plane y' because 'reason x'.

I gave my reasons in the linked thread.

First off, I'm thinking in terms of what the CM team has to work with.  The CT is second priority and Main Arena is by all means last (IMHO).  Impact, numbers, statistics = blah.  I think we would get the most "bang-for-buck" with this aircraft (N/Q models).  ETO, PTO, and Mediterranean scenerios would have another aircraft to work with.  It would be supplementing the small VVS planeset we have at the moment.  Since updates used to come in waves with multiple aircraft in each update, I dont see why multiple Soviet made aircraft (MiG, LaGG, Ratta) can't be thrown in at the same time.

Second, I'm thinking in terms of myself!  We all have that certain aircraft we're rooting for.  Don't shoot down my thread to further your own agenda :D  Make your own thread :D
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2004, 08:06:43 PM »
Octavius...I've said my piece, so now I'm making my peace...

Just gimme the  GD P-39:aok

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2004, 07:06:57 AM »
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Make your own thread :D

There was one already lurking here somewhere... :)
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