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[tshred]

True Verm, I probably exaggerated the effects of G. But my point is this really, that, as far as I know, fighter pilots would avoid situations where they black or redout, and a soon as they encountered this condition, they would I imagine take measures to recover the a/c and avoid them! Now, they have no real effect, and you can red out or black out to your hearts content without worrying about overstressing your a/c or your body! I think that is contributing to the 'uberness' of some a/c.

ts

[Vermillion]

tshred, I agree totally. Go back about a week ago and read the thread I started on modeling pilot fatigue.

Basically it say that the more you pull heavy G's and especially negative G's, your G tolerance lowers and the black/red out period increases.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[easymo]

 Not to hijack the thread   but to get back to the origanal post. The 1c and nik only have one thing in common. 4 20 mm. If the guns worked on all the planes, It would be a very different game. IMHO a better one.

 FWIW the N1K2 was always an uber plane. It just took some skill to fly it before.

[AKDejaVu]

 

duckwng6 has 135 kills and has been killed 25 times in the F4U-1D.

Threads like this understate the abilities of the pilots involved.

Every plane has its own set of strengths and weaknesses.  Who flies what is usually dictated by the strength preffered that day.  When things are warpy (very much so for most of 1.04) I will rely on snapshots.  I vowed to fly the 1d last tour, but had such a tough time with planes jumping all over that I had to switch to cannons.

This tour.. its the 1d (now that the warping has subsided).  I'll have to wait and see how much worse I do it in that I did in the uber-cannon-dweeb-hog.  By I'll have to wait and see... that means that so far there hasn't been a difference... maybe there will be one some day.

For all of the c models that were in the arena last tour, I have never done so well against them.  I was only shot down by 4 of them (air to air) and only 1 while I was flying the c model.

I don't see why people complain about what dweebs are flying tour to tour.  It just means a good aircraft will be less effective.  I also suppose it means you'll have to be looking for the wolf in sheep's clothing (stats from one posted above).

AKDejaVu

[tshred]

Stat's don't mean diddly Deja. Neither does the a/c. If you fly only to live, you could put up those numbers in a C202. Flying/fighting style and good decision making is the only thing that produces good stats. If I fly a C202, start from a rear field, climb to 30k and only engage when I'm at the advantage and never press the attack to a point where I can't get away, keep a hard deck of 20k until I'm deep into freindly territory, I'm gonna put up good numbers. It might take 1000 sorties to get 20 kills, but if I make good decisions I might never die!

ts

[Zigrat]

what ts said
we will see who the good pilots are in scenarios. there completing mission means as much as egtting kills and is just as important

[Glasses]

How about if we had a system designed(don't know if it has been mentioned before though)
that if an aircraft is a tight turner the likelyhood of you blacking out in that type would be more than in a BNZ type aircraft . I remember back in AW3 Beta that the spit was a good turner but the ability for the pilot model to withstand sustained G's was lower than in other types.

 Also I have not seen mentioned possibly enabling the feature that after a few full blackouts in which you left the tunneling vision phase you would lose control of the aircraft say for 2 or 3 secs and then rapidly recover ( I mean there can't be a delay if yer at 1 G and actually lost control for a full 3 secs there has to be a compromise in that respect).

  I think even though there are, as mentioned in a previous post, situations  in which you've lost  vision and maybe hearing but are aware of your surrounding there should be a degree of loss of responsiveness,i.e. 7 Gs you black out you can't be pulling the stick all the way to yer crotch it goes down to maybe 4 Gs I mean yer brain is loosing blood yah can't hold it!

Those are my views feel free to flame away the Fire department is standing by :-p

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Glasses---I may have 4 eyes ,but you only have one wing.