Author Topic: Smoking in Bars... (Read 7198 times)

Dowding · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:10:12 AM »

I once dumped a girlfriend because she smoked. She was a pain in the arse too, but I don't think that had anything to do with the smoking.

miko2d · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:26:21 AM »

miko

Dowding · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:30:52 AM »

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Dowding: florida's new law is great

Dowding: I once dumped a girlfriend because she smoked. She was a pain in the arse too, but I don't think that had anything to do with the smoking.

Did you lobby your congressman to outlaw smoking by girlfriends and mandate them to be nice to you?

miko

No, I went on some random BBS, became immensely confused by the whole convoluted reply authoring system, thereby mistakenly attributing one person's comments with someone elses and commenting on it.

Didn't work though. Just made me look like a self-satisfied, pretentious dick.

Habu · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:36:12 AM »

They have banned smoking in just about every public indoor place in Toronto. A few years back they had an exception for bars that put in seperate smoking areas that were totally isolated from the rest of the bar. Now after spending 10's of thousands to put in fancy glass walls and seperate ventilation they local politicians have said even in those areas it is going to be banned (because it is bad for the health of people that work in them).

Eagler · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:42:12 AM »

guess they can issue the help these:

Tarmac · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:46:11 AM »

If you don't like smoke in a bar, don't go to bars. That simple.

If there were enough people like you, someone would open up a non-smoking bar to cater to the non-smoking crowd.

How much do you want to bet that many of the people who voted for these laws are not regular bar patrons? Yet they can't keep their nose out of other people's business, so they invent these crusades against the nasty smelly smoker to save everyone. Like lazs said - womanly voters.

Once again, not the government's business.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:47:56 AM »

Welcome to the Nanny State Aztec. Please check your genitals at the door.

ra · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:54:11 AM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
ra: Once the feds pulled off the "2nd smoke causes cancer" scam, the door was open for this.

Whether 2nd hand smoke causes cancer or not, is irrelevant since people are free to abstain from visiting or working at the smoke-friendly businesses.
miko

Not any more. OSHA can declare that certain environments are unsafe for workers. And tort lawyers can sue anyone they want anytime they want for as much money as they want. Once the 2nd hand smoke scam was completed it opened the door for nannies to pass their new laws, and it puts employers at risk of law suits if they continue to allow smoking even where it remains legal.

ra

Creamo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:57:47 AM »

Eagler, your becoming the Weasel of conservatives.

Just saying.

miko2d · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:19:43 AM »

Dowding: No, I went on some random BBS, became immensely confused by the whole convoluted reply authoring system, thereby mistakenly attributing one person's comments with someone elses and commenting on it.

Didn't work though. Just made me look like a self-satisfied, pretentious dick.

My sincere appologies. My copy-paste operation somehow did not work properly and your name stayed in the copy buffer and ended up where Eagler's name was intended to be.
I should have been more carefull proof-reading my post before comitting it. I will post the corrected version with explanation shortly, so that nobody thinks you could spell a State name without a capital letter or approve of the Florida's smoking ban.

I agree that mis-copying somebody's name could be a sign of a confusion, though hardly an "immense confusion" on my part, but how does that make a person a "self-satisfied, pretentious dick"? Wouldn't that require a moral blunder on my part, not just a technical one?

Just in case, what would be your treshhold of tolerance for imperfection where you would just say "miko, you seem to have made a typo there."

miko

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:20:17 AM »

Yep Weazel is a "libertarian" who votes the DNC party line. Eagler says he is a Republican but these posts read like a Nader voter.

miko2d · « **Reply #26 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:20:24 AM »

Eagler: florida's new law is great

Dowding: I once dumped a girlfriend because she smoked. She was a pain in the arse too, but I don't think that had anything to do with the smoking.

Did you lobby your congressman to outlaw smoking by girlfriends and mandate them to be nice to you? (sarcasm icon)>

[NOTE: The above statement is a sarcasm directed towards Eagler. The sarcasm is a form of humor that consists of saying something that is obviously contrary to what the speaker believes. The effect in this case is achieved by advising Dowding to solve his personal problems Eagler-style - via legislature rather than dealing with them personally.

With sarcasm stripped aside, the meaning of my post is:
Dowding - good guy. Takes care of himself.
Eagler - socialist who approves of the state interfering with people's personal and property rights if that benefits him.]

miko

Wlfgng · « **Reply #27 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:27:41 AM »

we have both.. it's up to the bar owner.

one bar I play at is smokey as hell.. kinda reminds me of the Blues-brothers movie... (minus the chicken wire)

many others don't allow smoking and those bars have more patrons than those that do allow it..
needless to say, if you want to talk/spend time with a woman that doesn't have tobacco breath, the non-smoking bars are better.

and my clothes don't smell like an ashtray afterwards

vorticon · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:28:34 AM »

hmm...i get the no smoking in most public placesbut bars...thats just plain silly

i think the increase in "nanny" governments is due to a decrease in intelligent population...by wich i mean people are getting stupid (look at all those ******* imitators) so they need to be nannied...not people are getting stupid because they vote democrat...not everyone (except maybe 14 year olds who have figured it all out) is as enlightened as you...miko...laz...

Frogm4n · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2004, 11:35:35 AM »

I think its silly, i think all smokers should chain smoke all the time and have a short pointless life.
A buisness should do what it wants, and as a non smoker i dont care. If a place has smokers i just wont go.