Author Topic: Smoking in Bars... (Read 6791 times)

aztec · « **on:** February 17, 2004, 04:37:38 AM »

On January 1st Maine passed a no smoking in bars law.

I'm curious how many States now have this law and what ya all think of it.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2004, 05:41:13 AM »

Is it okay to drink in a tobacconist shop?

The nanny state is gaining ground.....

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2004, 07:42:20 AM »

We can not smoke in restaurants, but if the bar doesn't serve food we can smoke.

I think it's dumb..

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2004, 07:55:45 AM »

In certain cities in Ohio smoking is not allowed in bars or restaurants. I know Toledo is one of them.

lazs2 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:17:55 AM »

Started in California.. We have a state full of women democrats in power pass all sorts of nanny laws every day... What happens in California eventually appeals to your women and they make your life misserable too.

What I don't get is all the people who laugh at California (or worse) and then go and vote democrat women into power in their own state.

lazs

1K0N · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:20:24 AM »

Florida passed the no smoking nanny law a while back..restaurants are starting to close after a year of %40-%60 less revenue's from drinking smokers.. Where there were 3 deep at the bar on Friday or Saturday night restaurants are lucky to have 3 patrons at one time sitting at the bar... A family friend works for Darden Group in Orlando, "Red Lobster, Olive Garden Corp. HQ"
She stated that they had to raise Dinner prices to cover the lost revenue and that it was around %30 a year so far.. Because of this Darden's growth has slowed. This translates into less state revenue for a state that has constant revenue issues.

My wife and I stopped going out to eat and generally order takeout if anything.. Because of this I have found a renewed interest in cooking and grilling out, we have had a blast over the last year doing this and I dont have to put up with the non smoker hand wave and evil stares.

So in my opinion the nosmoking law is the best thing since sliced bread.

IKON

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:53:02 AM »

Nevermind the terrorists - BURN THE SMOKERS!!!

(When can we sue for reparations? If this isnt discriminsation, I dunno what is)

Creamo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:55:07 AM »

You should be able to go out to eat in a restaurant without sitting next to smokers. I do not enjoy that, but seriously can't remember a place where you can sit down for a meal that there isn't a non-smoking section. To make a “bar” non-smoking though? Cripes, that's like banning pitchers of beer in a bowling alley, or better yet their indoor burger grills and grease fryers which give them their unique awful stench which greets you at the door, sticks to your clothes, and makes them spraying the rental shoes laughable.

The worst thing is states that actually close bars with a “bartime” law. That’s just insane.

lazs2 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:00:16 AM »

In California you can't smoke in bars.... some of the men here got a little testy whgen the law was passed but soon knuckled under like good little boys after a few "time outs". I believe most of them then went out and voted for the same women who had taken away their rights in the first place.

lazs

ra · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:00:50 AM »

Once the feds pulled off the "2nd smoke causes cancer" scam, the door was open for this. Our basic liberties are completely at the mercy of nannies and tort lawyers.

ra

miko2d · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:25:44 AM »

ra: Once the feds pulled off the "2nd smoke causes cancer" scam, the door was open for this.

Whether 2nd hand smoke causes cancer or not, is irrelevant since people are free to abstain from visiting or working at the smoke-friendly businesses.

The government needs a pretext to justify the natural expansion of its powers. It would always find one or another. Today it's smoking and lack of health insurance, tomorrow it will be something else, untill all the miniscule aspects of individual's life are totally controlled.

miko

LePaul · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:36:31 AM »

Well as someone who was a waiter and bartender for many years, I can completely appreciate the ban on smoking. It used to be awful to smell that stuff all day, etc. Some smokers were polite, didnt blow it in your face and stuff. But the restaurant didnt have "smoke eaters" or those devices that clean out the air...it really sucked.

I'm sorry some smokers find it really offensive

miko2d · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:54:14 AM »

Let me get this straight, LePaul. You volunteered to work in the restaurant that smells of smoke and to be paid money for serving the smoking customers.
The only problem you have is that you do not like the smell and do not want to serve those customers...

miko

Eagler · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:54:36 AM »

florida's new law is great ...

recently traveled to Indiana, ate at an Outback which allowed smoking in their non enclosed smoking "section" and it stunk - ruined the entire meal

yep - take out for the smokestacks or airport enclosed booths for them to "enjoy" themselves while not polluting the entire space

as for the public drunks, they are usually too stoned or to busy looking for mr/mrs goodbar to care

Creamo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2004, 10:00:56 AM »

Or require ventilation, kinda like the casinos have. Everyone’s happy, and businesses don’t have to suffer one way or the other.