Fighter Rank?

[MC_Honky]

If I want to fly next tour for fighter rank then what ride should I be in?  I guess what I'm asking is -does the formula for fighter rank take "eny" values into account or should I be in a La-7 next tour?

[ra]

Fly a lot and it won't matter.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by MC_Honky
If I want to fly next tour for fighter rank then what ride should I be in?  I guess what I'm asking is -does the formula for fighter rank take "eny" values into account or should I be in a La-7 next tour?

The number of times you die does matter.  I would recomend any plane that will allow you to disengage when you get in troble.  LA7 will do that for you.  The 51 is good for that also, but you have to use your brain a little more, not as easy as LA7.  In anycase, you will need a fast ride to get away if you get in troble.  109G10 and 190s are good also.

[MC_Honky]

Ya but do you get more credit for a higher eny plane?

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by MC_Honky
Ya but do you get more credit for a higher eny plane?

No, not as far as fighter rank is concerned.  ENY only influences the number of perk points you receive.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[MC_Honky]

Ok-the following make up your fighter rank:

Kills / Deaths + 1
Kills / Sorties
Kills / Hour
Hit percentage
Points

What is Points?  Always thought that had to do with ENY values?

[hitech]

scorring

For a detail explination of the formulas.

HiTech

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by MC_Honky
If I want to fly next tour for fighter rank then what ride should I be in?  I guess what I'm asking is -does the formula for fighter rank take "eny" values into account or should I be in a La-7 next tour?

Speed isn't absolutely necessary if you have great SA. There's alot of sub 100 Ranked Fighter pilots out there who fly nothing but SpitV's and Niki's. You either have to kill alot of enemy in a short period of time thus jacking up your Kills/Time, or fly very smart and engage very discriminately enhancing your Kills/Deaths. Kills/Deaths and Kills/Time at the upper end of the spectrum are almost mutually exclusive, so it's usually best to choose which one you are going to focus on and stick to mission types that intrinsically enhance that area (ie: base/carrier defense enhances Kills/Time but can negatively effect Kills/Deaths).

In a Nutshell:

Killing quickly means you generally won't be killing very carefully.
Killing carefully means you generally won't be killing very quickly.


Zazen

[GODO]

Originally posted by MC_Honky
Ok-the following make up your fighter rank:

Take into consideration that all these factors give you a relative rank to the other players, so, you should consider the tendency of most players in every factor.

As an example player A has:
K/D 4.0 and is ranked 80
K/H  10.0 and is ranked 90
K/S  3 and is ranked 200
Hit% 10 and is ranked 100
points 20000 and is ranked 100

Player B has:
K/D 400.0 and is ranked 1
K/H 1 and is ranked 1200
K/S 80 and is ranked 1
Hit% 40 and is ranked 1
points 500000 and is ranked 1

Overal fighter rank of player A will be better than player B.

[Samiam]

Originally posted by MC_Honky [/B]

What is Points?  Always thought that had to do with ENY values? [/B]

From the AH help:

Air points = PlaneDamageScore + KillScore

PlaneDamageScore =
(DamagePointsScoredOnEnemiesTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourPlaneDamageScoredOnE nemies

KillScore =
((AirKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (AirAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) +
(GroundKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (GroundAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) * DeathMult) +
TotalTourKillScore

Death Multipliers

Landed      1.0
Discoed        .25
Bailed           .5
Ditched         .75
Captured      .4
Killed            .25
Crashed       .25


ENY only matters for perk points, not score.

My advice: Fly for score a few tours. Then forget about score, have fun, and become a better pilot.

[MC_Honky]

Flying for Score is fun for me right now.  That and spamming channel 1 make the $14.95 worth it.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by GODO
Take into consideration that all these factors give you a relative rank to the other players, so, you should consider the tendency of most players in every factor.

As an example player A has:
K/D 4.0 and is ranked 80
K/H  10.0 and is ranked 90
K/S  3 and is ranked 200
Hit% 10 and is ranked 100
points 20000 and is ranked 100

Player B has:
K/D 400.0 and is ranked 1
K/H 1 and is ranked 1200
K/S 80 and is ranked 1
Hit% 40 and is ranked 1
points 500000 and is ranked 1

Overal fighter rank of player A will be better than player B.

This is very accurate and shows very clearly that those who fly to survive are not necessarily rank or score potatos, if anything we're realism potatos. Flying with K/D in mind is generally not conducive to the highest possible rank/score. Flying to kill the most amount of enemy in the shortest period of time is actually the best and easiest way to achieve the highest possible rank/score. Killing as quickly as possible with little regard to survival is very very un-realistic. So, if we want to label a type of player that is "Gaming the Game",I'll give you a hint,  it sure as hell isn't the survivalists.

Zazen

[HavocTM]

For those of you who have ADD, like me, you will want to take the fast planes (G10, Tiffie, 109d9) etc. to shorten the time between deaths.  Unfortunately, the deaths are usually mine.

Then you can fly...

Did you see that car?  That was cool.  Wait, what was I saying?

Oh yeah, you can fly...

Oh my gosh, it is 4:20 already, time to take my ADD pills.  Anyway, so I was telling this guy about the new Intel processor and...

Oh wait, you can fly fast and get over to the fight and die faster.  Don't you hate how many commercials they have on talk radio these days?  The internet is cool.  I think I will finish my basement bathroom this weekend.

Wait...

What were we talking about?

[GODO]

Zazen, the score is designed to follow the "way of fight" of the majority of the players. That is, if 90% of players play for K/D, then K/D will be a mandatory factor for scoring, if next month 90% of the players play for K/H, then this will be the mandatory factor, and so on. Of course, most players play just to have some kills as soon as possible, surviving doesnt matter, so K/H is mandatory while K/D is secondary.

Independently of working for K/D, long range missions (sweeps, caps, buff interception or whatever) imply a lot of time, and not all the times you get more than a single kill. Actual scoring system punishes that kind of missions, while these are just the most reallistic ones.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by GODO
Zazen, the score is designed to follow the "way of fight" of the majority of the players. That is, if 90% of players play for K/D, then K/D will be a mandatory factor for scoring, if next month 90% of the players play for K/H, then this will be the mandatory factor, and so on. Of course, most players play just to have some kills as soon as possible, surviving doesnt matter, so K/H is mandatory while K/D is secondary.

Independently of working for K/D, long range missions (sweeps, caps, buff interception or whatever) imply a lot of time, and not all the times you get more than a single kill. Actual scoring system punishes that kind of missions, while these are just the most reallistic ones.

Yup, I've written several essays on this very topic. I agree with you 100%.

Zazen