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« on: February 20, 2004, 08:48:09 AM »
When an Enemy Was a Friend
http://www.afa.org/magazine/valor/0197valor.html
By John L. Frisbee
Published at Air Force Magazine, January 1997, Vol. 80, No. 1
Brown's B-17 was perhaps the most heavily damaged bomber to return from combat. It survived because of an enemy's act of chivalry.

Dec. 20, 1943, was a typically cold, overcast winter day in Britain as 2d Lt. Charles L. Brown's B-17F lined up for takeoff. It was 21-year-old Charlie Brown's first combat mission as an aircraft commander with the 379th Bomb Group, the target an FW-190 factory at Bremen, Germany. He and his crew of Ye Olde Pub were to become participants in an event probably unique at that time in the air war over Europe--a mission that would remain shrouded in mystery for many years.

While i'm at it, I though maybe the picture below would interest some. It is from pg 128 out of "Messerschmidt Br109 F, G, & K Series" by Jochen Prein & Peter Rodeike.

Franz Stigler had a laugh when he saw both of these pictures It is a picture of his former wife, Eva, at age 17. He said he doesn't know who gave them to the publishers, because he doesn't even own the pictures himself!
The bombers began their 10-minute bomb run at 27,300 feet, the temperature: negative 60 degrees. Flak was heavy and accurate. Before "bombs away," Brown's B-17 took hits that shattered the Plexiglas nose, knocked out the number two engine, damaged number four--which frequently had to be throttled back to prevent overspeeding--and caused undetermined damage to the controls. Coming off target, Lieutenant Brown was unable to stay with the formation and became a straggler.

Almost immediately, the lone and limping B-17 came under a series of attacks from 12 to 15 Bf-109s and FW-190s that lasted for more than 10 minutes. The number three engine was hit and would produce only half power. Oxygen, hydraulic, and electrical systems were damaged, and the controls were only partially responsive. The bomber's 11 defensive guns were reduced by the extreme cold to only the two top turret guns and one forward-firing nose gun. The tailgunner was killed and all but one of the crew in the rear incapacitated by wounds or exposure to the frigid air. Lieutenant Brown took a bullet fragment in his right shoulder.

Charlie Brown figured the only chance of surviving this pitifully unequal battle was to go on the offensive. Each time a wave of attackers approached, he turned into them, trying to disrupt their aim with his remaining firepower. The last thing oxygen-starved Brown remembers was reversing a steep turn, becoming inverted, and looking "up" at the ground. When he regained full consciousness, the B-17 was miraculously level at less than 1,000 feet.

Still partially dazed, Lieutenant Brown began a slow climb with only one engine at full power. With three seriously injured aboard, he rejected bailing out or a crash landing. The alternative was a thin chance of reaching the UK. While nursing the battered bomber toward England, Brown looked out the right window and saw a Bf-109 flying on his wing. The pilot waved, then flew across the B-17's nose and motioned Brown to land in Germany, which the aircraft commander refused to do. After escorting them for several miles out over the North Sea, the Luftwaffe pilot saluted, rolled over, and disappeared. Why had he not shot them down? The answer did not emerge for many years.

The B-17 did make it across 250 miles of storm-tossed North Sea and landed at Seething near the English coast, home of the 448th Bomb Group, which had not yet flown its first mission. The crew was debriefed on their mission, including the strange encounter with the Bf-109. For unknown reasons, the debriefing was classified "secret" and remained so for many years. Lieutenant Brown went on to complete a combat tour, finish college, accept a regular commission, and serve in the Office of Special Investigations, with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and in other Air Force and State Department assignments until his retirement. He now lives in Miami, Fla., where he is founder and president of an energy and environmental research center.

The image of his strange encounter with the Bf-109 remained firmly embedded in Charlie Brown's memory. In 1986, he began a search for the anonymous pilot. Finally, in 1990, former Oberleutnant Franz Stigler, now living in Canada, responded to a notice published in a newsletter for German fighter pilots. By comparing time, place, and aircraft markings, it was determined that Stigler was the chivalrous pilot who had allowed Brown's crew to live. Not surprisingly, Brown and Stigler have become close friends.

On that December day in 1943, there had been two persuasive reasons why Stigler should have shot down the B-17. First, earlier in the day, he had downed two four-engine bombers and needed only one more that day to earn a Knight's Cross. Second, his decision to not finish off the aircraft was a court-martial offense in Nazi Germany and if revealed could have led to his execution. He considered these alternatives while flying formation with the B-17, "the most heavily damaged aircraft I ever saw that was still flying." He could see the wounded aboard and thought, "I cannot kill these half-dead people. It would be like shooting at a parachute."

Franz Stigler's act of chivalry has been justly, though belatedly, honored by several military organizations here and abroad. On the other hand, Charles Brown was not decorated for his heroism over Germany, which never was reported by the 448th Bomb Group at Seething to his commanders. Such are the fortunes of war and its aftermath.

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2004, 08:48:46 AM »
A similar story from the other side of the world:

Several years ago, a former Dutch military nurse -- now a retired woman in her 70's -- contacted the Japanese Red Cross (or some similar charitable organization), attempting to locate a Japanese fighter pilot who spared her life somewhere over Java (New Guinea?) one day in 1942. According to her account of the event, she was flying in a Dutch military DC-3 (C-47) air ambulance at low altitude over dense jungle. On board were wounded soldiers and several children who were being evacuated from a combat area. Suddenly, a Japanese "Zero" fighter appeared alongside the plane. The nurse could see the Japanese pilot's facial features clearly. She and some of the children (!) stood by the tiny cabin and cockpit windows of the DC-3 and began frantically trying to wave him off. It is not hard to imagination the panic they must have experienced while pantomiming as if their lives depended on it (and they DID!).

After a few eternal moments of what must have been sheer terror for the desperately pantomiming passengers, the "Zero" gave a quick, acknowledging wing wobble before peeling off and disappearing from sight. The cockpit and cabin of the DC-3 were filled with cheers and sobs of relief.

For fifty-odd years, the Dutch nurse had wanted to meet with the Japanese pilot who spared her life, as well as the lives of the wounded soldiers and children that day. With a stroke of sheer luck, the Japanese Red Cross was able to locate the pilot of the Zero plane, and it was none other than Saburo Sakai, who had been flying a sortie combat air patrol on the day in question. When asked if he remembered the incident, Sakai replied that he did, and that he had thought about downing the plane for a brief moment, as higher command had instructed fighter patrols to down any and all enemy aircraft encountered, armed or not. When he saw the waving hands and horror-stricken faces in the windows of the DC-3, however, he was moved to mercy, thinking that anyone who wanted to live that badly deserved to survive. Apparently, he did not experience similarly tender feelings for many an Allied military aviator who was to stray into his gunsights in the subsequent three years of aerial combat, but on that day over the Javan jungles, he showed mercy. It is an anecdote of a type that is sadly rare in the annals of Japanese WW2 military history, but one that, nonetheless, shows that even the fiercest of warriors can be capable of human compassion.

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2004, 08:49:34 AM »
Karnak: The incident with this plane could have been a case mentioned by Saburo Sakai. Do a websearch with his name and you will probably find it. If not, let me know, I will look on all my HD's where I probably have the story from his side!

There is an incident mentioned by the German Ace Rudorffer where he escorted a damaged British plane into a safe area. It had happened to himself before, where a British fighter had escorted him to safety.

"In Russia, this would never have happened" he said...


Gosh, I have some more stuff in this direction. What a great idea for a thread I must say.

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2004, 08:50:11 AM »
Nice point on Heinz Knoeke's event.I remember it from his book now. Weren't they sharing cigarettes together untill he was picked up?
Anyway, wonder if Knoeke is still alive...

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2004, 08:51:42 AM »
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I contradict you warily, but I seem to recall a German civilian making this kind of statement about the Americans vs. British bomber pilots in Middlebrook's Battle of Hamburg.
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I'm sure you could find anecdotal evidence out there of people making that kind of statement, but you can also find stories of German people helping shot down RAF bomber crews that came down at night.

Making a blanket statement that the action would have been different if it had been an RAF bomber instead of a USAAF bomber just doesn't work for me.

The German propoganda machine was quick to accuse the American bomber crews of deliberately engaging in terror bombing of residential areas and as evidence pasted photos of an American Lt. wearing his A2 jacket with "Murder Incorperated" on the back.

Read Martin Middlebrook's excellent book on the Nuremberg Raid. He details the experiences of numerous shot down RAF airmen from that raid. Yes there were angry civillians, but at the same time they were also treated with much kindness despite being 'terrorfleigers". The tone is exactly the same as the stories you read about captured American airmen.

MZ, in that B24 crew I've researched for so long you can see all kinds of different experiences by the guys from that one crew who managed to survive to bail out when they went down in early 45. It's pretty clear that one was killed on the ground. One was was wounded and stuck in a German hospital and died for lack of care. One was beaten up and stoned by numerous people only to be 'saved' by a German soldier. Another was shot at while he was coming down in his chute by German soldiers but survived. Another broke his ankle on landing and was hustled to safety by a couple of German soldiers and the last of the survivors was taken into custody without incident, put in the care of a LW pilot who was to drive him to a different destination. On the way the LW pilot stopped at his girlfriend's apartment, left the American in the living room and went off into the bedroom and did the deed while the American waited.

Kinda tough to make a blanket statement on the treatment of airmen based on that wouldn't you agree?

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2004, 08:52:16 AM »
Just to prove you wrong, the direct quote of a LW nightfighter pilot and how he let an RAF "Night Pirate" go, out of respect for their mutual experience in the horrors over Nuremberg on March 30-31, 1944.

From "The Nuremberg Raid" by Martin Middlebrook.

"Oberleutnant Helmut Schulte had already shot down four Lancasters but his Schrage Musik had now jammed and when he found another Lancaster south of Nuremberg he had to attack with his forward firing guns. Schulte had no experience of attacking from the rear and was a little frightened of the bomber's tail gunner. His first attack came to nothing because he had forgotten to arm the nose guns then, as soon as he got into position again, the bomber went into a corckscrew. Schulte followed for five minutes and, when the Lancaster settled on a steady course again, took up position behind the bomber.

'At first he didn't object to this formation flying, and he must have been watching me as I got into position again. As soon as I opened fire he dived away and my shells passed over him. I thought that this chap must have nerves of steel;he had watched me formate on him and then had dived at just the right time. He had been through as much as I had-we both had been to Nuremberg that night-so I decided that was enough. I would like that pilot to know that I deliberately let him go.' "

And Middlebrook found the pilot and crew of the 115 Squadron Lancaster. It was flown by Warrant Officer Howard Hemming and the tail gunner responsible for directing the corkscrew was Sgt. John Carter.

Sure seems to me that Schulte, who had killed four Lancasters and up to 24 British airmen that night, had some respect for that crew of the 5th Lanc he saw. And he let them go because they'd shared the same experience that night. 96 British bombers downed. Schulte could have had #97.

remember Schulte's own words about that "night pirate".

"He had been through as much as I had-we had both been to Nuremberg that night-So I decided that was enough. I would like that pilot to know I deliberately let him go"

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2004, 08:52:49 AM »
Here is the goodie I promised:
"Then there was also another German pilot who was lucky, even though I did shoot him down. He was about to strafe Bone airfield in a Me 109 when my bullets hit his engine, so he crash landed on the field. When I landed shortly afterwards, the pilot stood by his wrecked plane and was chatting with a bunch of soldiers that had surrounded him. The circle of soldiers opened up as I approached and someone said: "Leutnant, here's the pilot that shot you down."
The German approached me, smiling, offered me his hand and said in faultless english: "Sergeant, I am thankful that your bullets hit the engine and not the cockpit. Now the war is over for me and I shall survive. I hope you have the same luck." He then handed me his Luger, saying: "You can keep this gun, it's no use for me any more."
This took place in the morning, and the rest of the day he spent with us at dispersal, completely unfetted. He showed us snapshots of his wife and two children and claimed to be pleased with being a prisoner of war as that meant that he would live to see his family again. He denounced the Nazis (as in fact most Germans seemed to do before the end of the war) and said it was obvious that the Germans could not win. We tried to discuss flying and tactics with him, but he refused to be drawn into that subject, and we respected his discretion. We were beginning to form a liking for this ex-adversary and felt a little sad when a group of soldiers came to take him away."

FO Jonsson 111 sqn RAF at Bone airfield in Algiers on the 22nd of November 1942

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2004, 08:53:22 AM »
Now carry on w/o the bombing crap.