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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2004, 10:49:28 AM »
Why not post a summary for those of us with ADD?
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2004, 11:13:01 AM »
here here!!!

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2004, 11:17:13 AM »
I'd consider someone other than Bush. Sorry, Kerry ain't him.



Democrats wanted a hardcore liberal and they picked one. Will cost 'em the election though. Will be sure to say I told ya so when the smoke clears.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2004, 11:57:27 AM »
Television Captioning Censorship Hurts Family Values
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Posted October 2, 2003

The National Association of the Deaf (NAD) urged President Bush to overturn a recent decision by the U.S. Department of Education to declare almost 200 television shows inappropriate for captioning by the Department’s Technology and Media Services for Individuals with Disabilities program, effective October 1, 2003. According to NAD President, Andrew J. Lange, the Department's action is government censorship and contradicts President Bush’s promotion of family values and parental accountability.

Under the current guidelines, applicants for captioning grants take into account the preferences of consumers, through grantee Consumer Advisory Boards (CABs) and other feedback mechanisms, when selecting “educational, news, or informational” programs for captioning. The recent decision deeming almost 200 television shows inappropriate for captioning apparently was based entirely on additional descriptive categories and actions of an external panel of five unnamed individuals.

Required federal rulemaking processes were completely disregarded, thus the public was not provided with the opportunity to provide written opinions, data, or arguments on the recently narrowed definition of “educational, news, or informational” programs for captioning.

Nancy J. Bloch, NAD Executive Director, said, “This secretive process amounts to censorship, which runs counter to the principles of the First Amendment freedom of speech. This action also segregates over 28 million deaf and hard of hearing individuals from access to the same shows as everyone else in America." In addition, Bloch added, families of persons with a hearing loss (parents, siblings, and grandparents in particular) bring the number of persons adversely impacted to many millions more.

Most if not all of the censored shows are in fact educational and informative. These include reruns of family favorites such as “Bewitched” and modern shows such as “Law & Order.” “Disney Monthly Original Children’s Movies” and “Pokemon” cartoons, fixtures in today’s youth culture, are also being censored. Virtually all sports programming has been censored, isolating deaf and hard of hearing students of all ages, not only in the classroom, but within the family, at the school lunch table, and on the playground. The censorship of these shows not only prevents deaf and hard of hearing children from watching shows that help them learn about the trends, culture, and society around them, censorship also prevents deaf and hard of hearing parents from making informed decisions on appropriate programming for their children.

“Without captioning, millions of deaf and hard of hearing parents, such as myself, are unable to preview shows for appropriate content for their children, to watch television programming with their families, or to engage in dialogue with their children in response to televised programs. Education does not stop at the schoolhouse door. My duties and responsibilities as a parent to pass on our family values to my children have been undermined by a few government officials," said Lange who called upon the President to practice what he preaches and restore parental authority by overturning the recent censorship decision.

Similar efforts to censor captioning in 1998 were met by a massive, nationwide outcry of consumer protest. These censorship efforts failed, in part, because then-Department of Education Secretary Richard W. Riley affirmed that the government should not “supersede the individual judgment of millions of deaf Americans” nor should the Department single out particular television programs resulting in a denial of access for deaf and hard of hearing individuals. See Riley’s letter at: http://www.nad.org/infocenter/newsroom/nadnews/EdSecretaryRileyRespon.html

“We’ve always enjoyed a close relationship with the Department in promoting education and family values. This rehashing of the 1998 issue is very disappointing,” Bloch said. Consumers are encouraged to share their views and opinions with Congressional members and Department of Education officials; contact information is available at:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

For a list of recently approved and disapproved television programs for U.S. Department of Education captioning support, click on:
http://www.nad.org/openhouse/action/alerts/captioningcensorship/list.html

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2004, 12:13:22 PM »
The department of education made the decision on what to provide captioning for. Bush only failed to overturn their decision. Hardly what I'd call "book burning". I do have sympathy for the deaf. Both my father's sister and my oldest grandson are deaf. IMO, my grandson is better off not watching any television.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2004, 12:22:46 PM »
Why couldn't you see it as virtual book burning.  It's keeping entertainment and education out of peoples hands.  I grew up when virtually no one captioned TV and the biggest step in the right direction was Papa Bush requiring all TV's over 13 inches to have built in CC.  With that said why would you cease funding for selected show...

Oh so no deaf person should be allowed the right to watch a documetary on Hollywood and the Muslim community.

Kerry has the best chance to win this Election in my opinion.  I've heard the good and the bad, but Bush continues to scare me in ways that I'd never thought of...

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2004, 12:28:15 PM »
The department of education refused to provide captioning (at tax payers expense) for those programs it deemed not educational. Do you think the tax payers should foot the bill to provide captioning for everything broadcast? Sorry, I don't buy it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2004, 12:41:20 PM »
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The department of education refused to provide captioning (at tax payers expense) for those programs it deemed not educational. Do you think the tax payers should foot the bill to provide captioning for everything broadcast? Sorry, I don't buy it.


How can you say that!

As both a deaf and blind person, quadraplegic...

I want to see subtitles on pornography.... I deserve to know
what they are saying!

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2004, 12:54:11 PM »
Okay,  Lets compare some...  Amazing animal videos is education in comparison to Emergency vets which has the potential to impression people to learn about a career in the veternary field.

Maybe I'm an extremist but since there is no bill requiring the use of closed captioning by companies, then yes I think the government (supported by the taxpayer dollars) should pay for it.  


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Amazing Animal Videos
Chalkzone
Classic Hallmark Titles
Connie the Cow - Noggin
Dragon Tales - PBS
Girls Vs. Boys - Noggin
Glass With Vicki Payne
Masterpiece Theatre - PBS
Pinocchio, VCI Entertainment
Rubbadubbers
Sherlock Holmes Series


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Emergency Vets
Forensic Files
In the Life - PBS
Reel Radicals: The 60's Revolution in Film
Documentary: Gay Hollywood
Documentary: Hell Up in Hollywood: Soul Cinema & the 1970's
Documentary: Hollywood & the Holocaust
Documentary: Hollywood & the Muslim World
Documentary: Reality People
Documentary: The Wrong Coast
Documentary: Young Hollywood Awards
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2004, 12:58:49 PM »
another govt grant? why does the govt (taxpayer) have to pay for everything. how much is the govt grant, maybe the 28 million deaf people can pay for it so our children and grand children won't have to.

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2004, 01:02:07 PM »
I have no problem with a bill requiring captioning for anything broadcast. But the producer and/or broadcaster should foot the bill and pass that on to the consumer, not the tax payer.

Anything produced by the government should and likely does provide captioning.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2004, 01:02:12 PM »
Does the Dept of Education pay for all closed captioning?  

Why don't the broadcasters, or the show's producers, foot the bill and put CC in themselves?

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2004, 01:14:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Nakhui
How can you say that!

As both a deaf and blind person, quadraplegic...

I want to see subtitles on pornography.... I deserve to know
what they are saying!


I surely hope this was a feeble attempt at a joke.

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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2004, 01:17:03 PM »
Your pissed about the Gay Hollywood thing, aren't you?;)