Firearms Refresher course

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Well Regulated Militia and Right to own guns are two different parts of one sentence.



Just because it's in one sentence, don't let it confuse your incompatint engglesh.

They are separate clauses of the same sentence. And many constitutional scholars disagree regarding the intent of the words.

My point is, don't be so sure. For example... can you name a gun control law that has been overturned on 2nd amendment grounds?

[john9001]

how can you have a "militia" if the "people" do not have guns?

And the national guard is not the "militia" it is the national guard. the guard do not take their guns home , the guns are kept locked up in the armory.

At the present time there is no "regulated militia" because there is no need AT THIS TIME, that is not to say that at some time in the future a "militia" will not be organized, and that is why there is a 2nd amendment and that is why people have a right to keep  guns.

[midnight Target]

The last word by the Supreme Court says otherwise.

[hawker238]

What do you need a militia for at this point in time?

[john9001]

any time you say 'Supreme Court ' i want you to say 'dread scott decision'

the Supreme Court does not make law , they only rule on laws that have been challenged as to whether the law is constutional.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by john9001
any time you say 'Supreme Court ' i want you to say 'dread scott decision'

the Supreme Court does not make law , they only rule on laws that have been challenged as to whether the law is constutional.

Last time the Supremes ruled on the 2nd, they said that there is NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to bear arms, and that the 2nd refers to militias.

[mrblack]

Last time the Supremes ruled they got rid of Diana Ross

[john9001]

supreme court on 2nd amendment

http://www.nrawestla.org/2Asupreme_court_case.htm

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Originally posted by mrblack
LOL they aint come to my house yet

ROFL - I'd expect nothing less than that reply from an acknowledged king of sanctimonious, empty posturing.

[beet1e]

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• America�s constitutional right to bear arms is an anachronism dating back to the 18th century. In modern times, it is an unmitigated disaster which has given rise to many millions of privately owned guns and an alarming homicide rate, with a tally of more than 300,000 firearms related homicides in the past 25 years. While no law can be 100% effective, Britain has no �gun culture�, and much stricter firearms controls which have contained the annual tally of gun related homicides to a double digit value - fewer than one fiftieth of the American gun-related homicide rate per 100,000 population.

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[airguard]

What is with you guys and this gun discussion rofl
I never ever think of guns in my daily life, dont walk around afraid either thinking if "what if somone got a gun, i prolly get one myselve too".

It seems kinda sick for me grow up please.

edit : instead of dic...s you prolly need a gun to uphold youre macho image or is that in lack of dic....s maybe

[lazs2]

we wouldn't really be discussing our rights if there weren't so many that wish to deprive us of them....

I don't give a crap about swimming or rock climbing but if there were large groups trying to ban those things I bet there would be a lot of discussion.

lazs

[lazs2]

airgurd... I bet I could rent you an apartment in a lot of places in the states where you might change your mind about gun ownership... I bet if you were old or a woman in those areas you would feel even more vulnerable.

What I find hypocritical is the young able bodied white guys on this board who live in middle class or upper middle class areas telling the rest of the populatin that they don't need the ability or choice to protect themselves.  some even live in socialist little white bread countries.

lazs

[Morpheus]

Owning firearms certainly didn't seem to work out very well for the people at Ruby Ridge, or Waco.

WHAT a choad remark... Your comparing apples to oranges... The ppl at Waco, and ruby ridge are far from being alike to folks like my father, my friends who own guns, myself, most of my family for that mater...

Its not the honest citizens who are the problem its the ones who continue to purchace guns off the street illegaly. Its the honest citizens of the US who pay for these peoples actions... A drug dealer kills a kid with a gun he bought off the street and honest people pay the price for this actions by more laws, more bans on guns, and more needless paperwork to fill out when you purchace a gun...

I've been around guns and in the bisness all my life, since I could walk and even before my father braught me up around guns and honest people who enjoy shooting... Not once did I attend a class like which instructed me and others in ways of which to bring the US Government down... My point here stands, Honest people arent the ones to blame, its the ones that are always being overlooked, the criminals who have laws writen on their behalf by those people in office who think more laws will do good and help to put an end to this maddness and stop all these horrible gun crimes...

Tell me... Since most crimes are commited while under the influence of one substance or another, such as alcohol... Should we need to fill out and SP-67 and get background checked before we purchace a 6 pack?

[lasersailor184]

But if you criminilize alcohol, then only criminals would have it!

Luck bastards.