8 billion well spent!

[Frogm4n]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,112225,00.html

Monday, February 23, 2004

WASHINGTON — The Army has decided to cancel its Comanche helicopter program, a multi-billion project to build a new-generation chopper for armed reconnaissance missions, officials said Monday.

The contractors for Comanche (search) are Boeing Co. and Sikorsky Aircraft Corp.

With about $8 billion already invested in the program, and the production line not yet started, the cancellation is one of the largest in the history of the Army. It follows the Pentagon's decision in 2002 to cancel the Crusader artillery program (search) — against the wishes of Army leaders.

Pentagon officials said a public announcement was planned for Monday afternoon.

Loren Thompson, who follows aviation and other defense issues for the Lexington Institute (search) think tank, said he believes the Army under new chief of staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker favors ending the Comanche program, even though the service had been counting on it to provide a new reconnaissance capability.

"The Bush administration has now killed the two biggest Army weapons programs it inherited from the Clinton administration," Thompson said, referring to the Crusader and Comanche.

I personally could care less. Both programs were money sinks for large military contracts, but its quite funny how the Bush admin kills programs and noone crys foul yet when kerry voted against pork barrel military spending he supports terrorism.

[FUNKED1]

You know if they had finished the thing in a timely fashion instead of stretching out the development by decreasing annual budgets, those things would already be in service.  Same for the F-22 and V-22.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
I personally could care less. Both programs were money sinks for large military contracts, but its quite funny how the Bush admin kills programs and noone crys foul yet when kerry voted against pork barrel military spending he supports terrorism.

It's almost as ironic as people who gripe about the deficit yet criticize budget cuts.

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
You know if they had finished the thing in a timely fashion instead of stretching out the development by decreasing annual budgets, those things would already be in service.  Same for the F-22 and V-22.

 
F22 has been in development for how long? like 10 years or so?
That is rediculous. In the private sector you cant afford to do that, but the defence contractors are still sacred cows in this country. The government says "we want x for y amount of money in z time", the contractors agree then y and z are geometricly increased because of bought and paid for members of congress.

[FUNKED1]

Frog the slowdown is a direct result of budget cuts.  The government has a foolish belief that cutting the annual budget in half and doubling the length of development will not hurt things.  Also when they decrease the number of units in the contract it greatly drives up the average unit cost.  B-2 gets derided as a "$2B airplane" even though it wouldn't cost anywhere near $2B per unit to build more of them.

[Yeager]

You have no clue what you are talking about frog.  Again.

[Frogm4n]

Elaborate Yeager.

[Ripsnort]

Welcome to yesterday Frogtard.

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Welcome to yesterday Mien Furher.

Oh howso

[Ripsnort]

*sigh* Why do I even bother replying to young, dumb, full of cumm college students who have the world figured out by age 25?  Probably the entertainment value.


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[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
*sigh* Why do I even bother replying to young, dumb, full of cumm college students who have the world figured out by age 25?  Probably the entertainment value.


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Sounds like someone is jealous.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Frogm4n

 yet when kerry voted against pork barrel military spending he supports terrorism.

So by your standard prcatically every major weapon syatem used by any of the service is unncesary pork - because frogman kerry voted against nearly all of them....

Kerry and Frogman think all of these are unnecasry Pork, and not needed by the US miliarty:

F14
F15
F16
B1
B2
Harrier
M1 Abrams
M2/M3 Bradley
Apache
Patriot
The Navys Most modern warships

What on earth is lefft? What will the US military fight wrs with? Vietnam era F105? M113APC and M60 tanks?  WW2 ear destroyers?


"The litany of weapons systems that Kerry opposed included conventional as well as nuclear equipment: the B-1 bomber, the B-2, the F-15, the F-14A, the F-14D, the AH-64 Apache helicopter, the AV-8B Harrier jet, the Patriot missile, the Aegis air-defense cruiser and the Trident missile. And he sought to reduce procurement of the M1 Abrams tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the Tomahawk cruise missile and the F-16 jet. "


He basically voted to remove the US military....

Which weapons are OK for the US army to have according to you traitors? Can our men in the field have automatic weapons at least?  

Its a consistent pattern of voting againast the vbery weapons systems that protect our troops and assure they get home if they have to go to battle - yet the war herro klerry voted against all of these.

Degenerates....

[rpm]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Welcome to yesterday Frogtard.

Gotta agree.


Besides, everyone already knows Boeing can outmilk Haliburton everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

[Frogm4n]

Your not thinking again grun. Alot of those weopon systems came way before he was even in the senate, and your assumeing alot without hearing his explanationl.

I would have voted against alot of military spending just on the basis that the bills gave away to much cash.

[GRUNHERZ]

I'm sorry frog but all thpose things neeed maintannec and upgrade money to keep running, otherwise they are useless. And just logiacally all of those systems are so unrealted there is no way he was just concerned about a few cases of wasteful spending attached to these bills. It was a clear concise pattern of votes against these weapons syastems and not wasteful spending. There is a reason his voting record is actually left of the kooky Dennis Kuchinic...

The guys voting record on defense is clear and he has to be taken to task for it, war hero or not...

Yes I bet you would have voted aginst all of them too.... We dont need any of it, no we donet all useless pork...