Author Topic: The Best Fighter Aircraft of all Time (Read 17637 times)

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #300 on:** March 15, 2004, 02:04:08 PM »

and to think all I wanted to do was read about the best fighter a/c of all time......

senna · « **Reply #301 on:** March 18, 2004, 03:41:01 AM »

FW-190 gets me lotsa kills. P-38 is great also.

Gixer · « **Reply #302 on:** March 18, 2004, 03:59:50 AM »

Widewing,

F15? Sukhoi SU-27 beats it in just about evey regard. Let alone the latest generation of Sukhoi fighters.

~~...-Gixer~~

FDutchmn · « **Reply #303 on:** March 18, 2004, 07:30:40 AM »

gotta luv em SU fighters:)

Widewing · « **Reply #304 on:** March 18, 2004, 08:42:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Widewing,

F15? Sukhoi SU-27 beats it in just about evey regard. Let alone the latest generation of Sukhoi fighters.

~~...-Gixer~~

What's the SU-27's combat record? Where the rubber meets the road, the F-15 has the best combat record of any major fighter, ever.

My regards,

Widewing

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #305 on:** March 18, 2004, 09:32:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
What's the SU-27's combat record? Where the rubber meets the road, the F-15 has the best combat record of any major fighter, ever.

My regards,

Widewing

Look widewing, an empty Su27 can do all sorts of crazy manuvers that no combat loaded F15 could ever do. So the Su27 is waaay better, let alone an empty later model Su...

Gixer · « **Reply #306 on:** March 18, 2004, 10:12:29 PM »

My opinion re the SU-27 was based on technical facts rather then just K/D ratios.

~~...-Gixer~~

VooDoo · « **Reply #307 on:** March 18, 2004, 11:46:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Widewing,

F15? Sukhoi SU-27 beats it in just about evey regard. Let alone the latest generation of Sukhoi fighters.

I have russian document about comparing Su-27 to F-15, F16 and Tornado G-2. Its a bit less optimistic than you

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Altitude 4000-7000 meters. Speed 300-600 kmh.

Instantaneous maneuvering - Su-27 markedly better.
Continuous maneuvering - same abilities.
Acceleration and energetic climb - same abilities.

Altitude 4000-7000 meters. Speed 600-800 kmh.

Instantaneous maneuvering - same abilities.
Continuous maneuvering - same abilities.
Acceleration and energetic climb - same abilities.

Altitude 200-4000 meters. Speed 300-600 kmh.

Instantaneous maneuvering - Su-27 markedly better.
Continuous maneuvering - Su-27 better.
Acceleration and energetic climb - F-15 better.

Altitude 200-4000 meters. Speed 500-1050 kmh.

Instantaneous maneuvering - same abilities.
Continuous maneuvering - F-15 better.
Acceleration and energetic climb - F-15 better.

Altitude 200-4000 meters. Speed above 1050 kmh.

Instantaneous maneuvering - same abilities.
Continuous maneuvering - F-15 markedly better.
Acceleration and energetic climb - F-15 better.

The funny thing is that Su-27 loadout was 2xK-73 and 2xK-27 and F-15 - 4xAIM-7 and 4xAIM-9.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #308 on:** March 19, 2004, 01:27:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
My opinion re the SU-27 was based on technical facts rather then just K/D ratios.

~~...-Gixer~~

~~What K/D ratio? Has any Su27 family ever seen combat?~~

VooDoo · « **Reply #309 on:** March 19, 2004, 01:30:37 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
What K/D ratio? Has any Su27 family ever seen combat?

Yes. Even shot down some MiG-29s... No losses AFAIR.

Angus · « **Reply #310 on:** March 23, 2004, 06:33:02 PM »

So, can the Su stay with a Harrier?

VooDoo · « **Reply #311 on:** March 24, 2004, 09:05:26 AM »

Sure. On the airfield

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Widewing · « **Reply #312 on:** March 25, 2004, 07:55:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
So, can the Su stay with a Harrier?

Harrier's can do amazing things. Unfortunately, they have a heat signature like a Malibu brush fire. That makes them IR missile magnets.

My regards,

Widewing

Rafe35 · « **Reply #313 on:** March 25, 2004, 09:04:44 PM »

Can Harrier jet can shot down a jet fighter? I know Harrier is attacker, but wonder if Harrier can really shot down a jet fighter?

Widewing · « **Reply #314 on:** March 25, 2004, 10:10:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Rafe35
Can Harrier jet can shot down a jet fighter? I know Harrier is attacker, but wonder if Harrier can really shot down a jet fighter?

Sea Harriers did very well in the Falkland dispute where they filled the role of air superiority fighters. They were just too slow to intercept or run down the Argentine Mirages. Harriers are very dangerous dogfighters using VIFF (Vector In Forward Flight) tactics. Why do you think they are armed with IR missiles for?

My regards,

Widewing