Author Topic: Kerry on the military (Read 1307 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** February 24, 2004, 07:36:06 PM »

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The litany of weapons systems that Kerry opposed included conventional as well as nuclear equipment: the B-1 bomber, the B-2, the F-15, the F-14A, the F-14D, the AH-64 Apache helicopter, the AV-8B Harrier jet, the Patriot missile, the Aegis air-defense cruiser and the Trident missile. And he sought to reduce procurement of the M1 Abrams tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the Tomahawk cruise missile and the F-16 jet.

Source: Washington Post

All I will comment on is this: If Kerry gets elected, don't fly commercial and move out of the large cities.

john9001 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2004, 07:40:48 PM »

but--but--but rip , he's---he's ---he's a WAR HERO, he would not let down his--his--his BAND OF BROTHERS

Sandman · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2004, 08:04:54 PM »

This just in... the F14A first flew in 1971. First prototype AH-64 flew in 1975. AV-8B.. 1981. F-15.. 1972. F-16... 1975

John Kerry didn't get to the Senate until 1984.

I bet he was around when Gore created the internet also.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2004, 08:09:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This just in... the F14A first flew in 1971. First prototype AH-64 flew in 1975. AV-8B.. 1981. F-15.. 1972. F-16... 1975

John Kerry didn't get to the Senate until 1984.

I bet he was around when Gore created the internet also.

Did we only purchase the original versions of all these platforms, or did maybe upgraded versions come before the senate after the original production runs?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2004, 08:21:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This just in... the F14A first flew in 1971. First prototype AH-64 flew in 1975. AV-8B.. 1981. F-15.. 1972. F-16... 1975

John Kerry didn't get to the Senate until 1984.

I bet he was around when Gore created the internet also.

This just in...upgrades to said aircraft go through the senate.

This just in {It wouldn't surprise me if its incorrect reporting, after all, its the very-liberally slanted Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63124-2004Feb22.html}

pugg666 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2004, 08:55:56 PM »

well if true he was right on downing any support for the Bradley

Frogm4n · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2004, 08:58:25 PM »

Bush has already killed 2 weopons programs, and your not whineing about him?
Like i said, when bush kills military pork spending you ignore or praise it. When its a democrat they are supporting terrorism.

Sandman · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2004, 11:07:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
This just in...upgrades to said aircraft go through the senate.

This just in {It wouldn't surprise me if its incorrect reporting, after all, its the very-liberally slanted Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63124-2004Feb22.html}

The quote is misleading... "litany of weapons systems opposed..."

It got my attention simply because it named variants... F-14A and F-14D (but not F-14B)... AV-8B... etc... no mention of F/A-18A thru F/A-18D or the newer F/A-18E/F...

I'd have to do some digging to see what the "major" upgrades were (your note, not the journalist's), but I got the impression from the list that this was mainly ACAT-1 programs.

shoddy journalism, imho.

weaselsan · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2004, 08:04:26 AM »

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Originally posted by pugg666
well if true he was right on downing any support for the Bradley

It never ceases to amaze me how Canadians who have a total military of 60,000, and is totally bankrupt...broke...kaput...fe el the need to give their 2 cents on military spending in the U.S.

pugg666 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2004, 09:03:39 AM »

So you feel the bradley was a good choice then?

Frogm4n · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:35:37 AM »

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Originally posted by weaselsan
It never ceases to amaze me how Canadians who have a total military of 60,000, and is totally bankrupt...broke...kaput...fe el the need to give their 2 cents on military spending in the U.S.

Hey guess what our government and military are broke as well! Looks like somebody dosnt understand what deficiet spending really means!

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:45:55 AM »

pugg666
What exactly do you think is wrong with the Bradley?

Frogm4n · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:48:56 AM »

Its not big enough to carry enough troops(which it was designed for) and its gun is not large enough to engage large armor, same can be said about its armor plateing( which used to fold under rpg hits, not sure if they fixed that)

john9001 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:49:07 AM »

deficit spending does not mean you are broke,(not yet anyway),
deficit spending means you pay tomorrow for what you buy today.

trivia.
'i will glady pay you tuesday for a hamburger today', who said that? hint, friend of popeye.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:50:11 AM »

what was it, wimpy or something to that effect.