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Offline Frogm4n

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« Reply #30 on: February 29, 2004, 03:29:02 PM »
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"I like how the crow pecked out the guys eye. What a great god, question him and you get punished. woot!"

He is a "great" God.  And your karma is gonna suck.   You're already a Liberal-Leftist, so you are well on your way...

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Yea i guess ill be going to the christian hell for believeing in helping out my fellow human being. My bad. If there is a heaven i do not want to be going to it, it will be filled with esoteric salamanders. Plus according to your rules hitler will be in heaven and ghandi in hell. Sounds cool to me.

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« Reply #31 on: February 29, 2004, 03:49:22 PM »
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1.)  What was the significance of Satan carrying a baby, albeit an ugly one, during the whiping?

2.)  It appeared as though Satan was only 'visable' to Mary (based on eye contact), is there any basis for this in the book?

3.)  What is the significance of Mary and Mary 'soaking up' his blood in the courtyard following the beating?  What do they intend to do with it?

4.)  The movie portrayed Judas's suicide as the result of a sort of devine torment.  I was always under the impression that he 'punished himself' out of guilt, but it appeared in the film as though he was driven to it.  Which is correct?  Also, are there any mentions in the Bible of the 'damned children' or the animal thing which he encounters post arrest?

5.)  Gibsons portrayal of Pilate was an interesting first.  Conflicted and compassionate: "Do you always punish your prisoners before they have been judged?"  Is this an accurate portrayal or Pilate, or is Gibson taking an artistic liberty?


1. I felt that it was a portrayal of a new beginning to evil. That Jesus was going to give in and a whole new evil would come forth and that even if he didn't that Evil was just beginning to happen to Jesus. ALl the beating and scourging being the evil he was going to have to endure.

2. Basis in the Bible I'm not sure I remember or not. I have read the 4 gospels. I dont remember that however. I think Satan was visable to only Mary showing that Satan had a stake in what was happening.

3. I believe it was Reverence. That they didn't want his blodd in that unholy place. They wanted to feel closer to him. I think this was shown again in the scene of the woman coming to give Jesus the water. SHe handed him a rag..He wiped blodd on that rag and she help it close. Reverance to him. Holding him close..feeling closer to him.

4. Judas went crazy. I think there may have been some liberties here but basically God made it know to Judas that he had really screwed up and that the children of God were killing Jesus and he was the one that had betrayed Jesus. The children being the ones that were going to make him crazy.  Make sense?  lol

5. Pilat was conflicted. He was saving his rear and in the process washing his hands of what could become a blood bath. In the Bible Pilate comes off as being conflicted as well. Gibson may have made him a lil more that one would in reality think..But I think he was according to the bible truly conflicted and somewhat hesitant to do what he did.

Now this is only my thoughts..Don't by anymeans think they are right. They maybe partly or way off base or even crazy in somes eyes.

The Movie touched me in a profound way. Even more so today when I was at church. I would elaberate..But I think it would make this post to long. It was AWSOME and AMAZING.

Should be required reading so to speak for Christians and people who think there is a God but haven't come to that place in life to say the words.

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« Reply #32 on: February 29, 2004, 04:12:43 PM »
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Ok,

So how come more catholics have killed in the name of god when it's against the 10 Commandments?

/gross generalization
Personally Catholics seem to be the worst as bad as radical muslims.


Maybe because of the way word meaning changes over time.  At one time kill and murder meant the same thing.

The original wording of the 10 commandments it says "shall not murder"

This stuff has been going on for years.  Ya wanna take this stuff apart?  hey read enough about it to be able to speak on it with some authority maybe?

Gonna throw so more into it ...

Astroligy???

does the book say anything about it?

If it does is it for or against?

If it does and it is for or against then please say why?
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #33 on: February 29, 2004, 04:58:16 PM »
Frog you are a very immature person!!

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« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2004, 06:18:11 PM »
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Frog you are a very immature person!!


Oh how so?

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« Reply #35 on: February 29, 2004, 06:27:33 PM »
You can be mature and still be a bigot.

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« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2004, 06:37:20 PM »
Has anyone seen the Passion yet?

more than a few have:
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« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2004, 06:37:52 PM »
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You can be mature and still be a bigot.


OUCH....that was harsh Funked.  Prolly True but Harsh.  :rofl

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« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2004, 02:00:24 PM »
HAHAAH FUNKED 1 THREAD 0 HAHAAHAHAHA

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« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2004, 02:49:53 PM »
FUNKD R T3H WINAR!!!!!1111eight

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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2004, 06:54:18 PM »
"This is a two-hour-and-six-minute snuff movie—The Jesus Chainsaw Massacre—that thinks it's an act of faith."


LOL... http://www.slate.com/id/2096025/
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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2004, 07:03:57 PM »
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LOL indeed :aok

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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2004, 07:05:21 PM »
Hah... I didn't catch that the first time. :D
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Typical....
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2004, 07:36:14 PM »
I'm wondering Sandman if your agree with that article....

  The guys sounds like a typical anti-christian person. The movie had plenty of love and compassion in it. If you have any Idea what the Bible teaches...Which this guy doesn't seem to simply by this statement...

"What does this protracted exercise in sadomasochism have to do with Christian faith? I'm asking; I don't know."

Then you realize just what the movie is saying and teaching and just what it portays to Christians , Jews , Catholics and any other religion based on the crusifixion.


Here's another Gem......Echoed in the Secular world we live in....

"For Gibson, Jesus is defined not by his teachings in life—by his message of mercy, social justice, and self-abnegation, some of it rooted in the Jewish Torah, much of it defiantly personal—but by the manner of his execution. "

Not to most christians and I would say NOT to Gibson either...This movie shows Compassion and forgiveness throughout....It just takes a smarter person than this "Critic" to see it. It shows what one person did for mankind. There was no sense of "Payback" at all in this film.

It's a film that 2 people of christian faith see differently. I saw it and was taken by the brutality that Jesus endured. I saw the Love and compassin in it , but the Pain and suffering and blood shed is what hit me first. My wife on the other hand saw the Love and compassion and sheer will to do what he was put on this earth to do. She saw and felt what a Mother feels for her child.

This guy saw nothing....And I would venture to say that if you don't have some christian upbringing or at least a belief in God, that seeing it won't do you one bit of good. Your just wasting your time and will leave even MORE convinced that there is NO Jesus..No God...That the Bible is allllll tall tales. You'll takle it for just about what this guy has said in his oh so talented writing. If your an Atheist.....Save yourself 10 bucks and just read this guys article and don't see it. Cause you won't get it in the end. :(

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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2004, 08:00:59 PM »
I was raised as a Baptist...but you're right. Seeing this movie won't do me any good.

I've read the Gospels. I haven't seen the movie and the more I read about it, the less inclined I am to see it. Two hours of brutality isn't my thing.

Rather reminds of Schindler's List. Excellent movie, well crafted and absolutely painful to watch. I've never seen it again after the first time and have no desire to do so. Same goes for The Passion. I know how it ends.
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