Author Topic: New gun for the army (Read 1725 times)

pugg666 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2004, 02:20:40 PM »

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The XM8 looks like something out of the "Aliens" movies.

it does, doesn't it.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2004, 03:20:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Have you actually shot with an AK74? The handle is smaller than small... I got to try it in the army, and the general consensus was that only women or midgets could use that one.

Used a 47 for 3 years, better than a Galil which I also used - liked the Fn Fal a lot but that's more sentimental I suppose - Kalashnikov does the job, is light, works every time and to clean it you take it with you when you go shower.

Sov weapons look like crap but they work when everything else has to be sent back to the factory for fine tuning.

john9001 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2004, 03:34:33 PM »

"""to clean it you take it with you when you go shower. """

LOL, when i was in the service, after a week in the field , i would take my M-1 into the shower with me , hot soapy water cleans people and guns. i never had my M-1 jam or missfire and it got dirty.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2004, 05:16:47 PM »

The specs are great but it looks like a toy, will it come with an orange cap over the muzzle?

BTW does anyone know if John Kerry voted to cancel this one too?

Mini D · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2004, 05:35:57 PM »

I wonder where they got the figures for the cost comparison. Those numbers seem a bit off.

MiniD

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #20 on:** February 27, 2004, 06:11:14 PM »

WOW!!! Everyone should take a look at these videos!

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?s=1-292925-xm8.php

Pongo · « **Reply #21 on:** February 27, 2004, 06:15:05 PM »

When I see plastic on a rifle I worry about cold. I assume they have tested the ying yang out of the thing but the whole reviever group looks like plastic.

59bassman · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2004, 06:15:46 PM »

Whatever they come up with it should have looser tolorences than the m-4 so as not to jam up in the desert so much.
thats what made the AK-47 so good.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2004, 06:22:32 PM »

Used to shower with A2's too.

Call me old fashioned, but that M4 gets me hard.

The new one looks ok - but it needs to shoot. I dont think many opposing forces will give up at the sight of a new rifle.

Either way - forget about civilian use. Its too 'scary' looking.

irritant · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2004, 08:57:31 PM »

The XM8 looks like something straight out of Star Wars.

http://www.lucasarts.com/products/outcast/images/weapons/disruptor_rifle.gif

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 27, 2004, 10:25:17 PM »

Only Wood on a gun is sexy.

AdmRose · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2004, 10:27:17 PM »

I WANT THAT GUN

mauser · « **Reply #27 on:** February 27, 2004, 10:39:35 PM »

[de-lurk]

On all the gunboards I frequent, the XM-8 matter has two sides. One side says how the XM-8 will finally give a cleaner, more reliable weapon due to it's gas system - the M16/M4 vents gas directly into the receiver onto the bolt carrier whereas the XM-8 uses a gas piston and rod to actuate the bolt. The other side says that the XM-8 isn't enough of a leap in technology to replace the M-4. Still the same 5.56x45 mm round as the M-4, unless those that are pushing for the 6.8x43mm round succeed.

H&K also revealed a new gas-piston upper for the M-4 at the SHOT show it seems. The same familiar ergonomics (which the shooters are very particular about) as the M-4, but with a cleaner gas system. Maybe a transitionary piece between the M-4 and XM-8?

Interesting stuff to read more on...

mauser
[re-lurk]

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #28 on:** February 27, 2004, 11:19:04 PM »

What happened to the Caseless HK weapon in I think 4.7mm - G10?

Wolf14 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 27, 2004, 11:26:10 PM »

I'm an H&K fan. Anything H&K makes is tested beyond Mil specs. They want their stuff to work. Climate shouldnt be any kind of problem. Hopefully the US will adopt the XM-8 as the new weapon of choice.