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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2004, 04:07:09 AM »
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liar/ignorant? please blow it out ur dumbarse crack ahole
I was just pointing out the development of a 21 week old "fetus" that you and other baby murderers don't have a problem killing everyday.

I may be wrong, but I don't believe that a 5 1/2 month pregnancy can be terminated unless there is a danger to the mother's health. The pic IS real, the details ARE false.
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2004, 04:21:40 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2004, 05:02:11 AM »
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But why let facts get in the way of trying to eliciate a manipulative emotional reponse in order to futher your agenda.
 


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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2004, 05:39:30 PM »
Sig material...

Baby killer...baby killer...blah blah blah. It's the same load of bullcrap people have been talking about since the idea of abortion was thought up. Talk all you want, as much as you want, but the basic fact is that you won't make a bit of difference.

See why making laws based on morality is stupid? Morality is interpretive. My morals are different than the next guy's and so on. We can have a president make a law banning gay marriage and abortion, and people will whine. We can have the following president repeal the laws and people will whine. Morality has no place in the law books, IMO.

But the more we talk about it, the angrier people become. Soon it's turn into another flame fest...and we'll have another shiney lock on the board...

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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2004, 05:50:01 PM »
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See why making laws based on morality is stupid? Morality is interpretive.


Just what do you think laws are based on? Laws are based on what is and what is not socially accepted behavior, which is governed by people's moralities.

Why is it againt the law to walk down the street naked? Why is any law a law?

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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2004, 06:01:11 PM »
Laws are there to protect us. They are enacted to ensure order and safety of the residents of the country. They're also there to ensure that people's rights are not infringed on.

Now, a law that bans gay marriage or a law that bans abortion directly removes the rights and freedoms we have as Americans. That's where they are different then other laws. Abortion and gay marriage are not universally considered unacceptable...they are considered unacceptable by certain citizens who are trying to force their morals on other people. That's what irks me.

You can't walk down the street naked because you have a chance to offend people. You have a chance to infringe on someone else's rights. You can't have an abortion because it's morally wrong.  What?

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2004, 06:10:46 PM »
So I should be able to kill kittens  if I want to because that doesn't affect anyone right?

The fact is that laws are based on people's morality. It's against the law to walk down the street naked because people made a morality based law and decided it was offensive.

You say that people that are trying to pass anti-abortion laws are trying to enforce their morality on you? That's what all laws do, otherwise people could do whatever they wanted.

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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2004, 06:15:22 PM »
well the good news is the gay couples don't have to worry about abortion laws :)
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2004, 06:20:59 PM »
Thing is, those laws are because the majority found it that way. Even so, there are nude beaches and nudist colonies, thereby further segregating the population.

Gay marriage and abortion is different because there's almost an equal split between the two parties. There is no majority...everyone has their own opinion. You make a law like that, and there will be rallies out the wazoo to get them repealed.
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2004, 06:55:50 PM »
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... Abortion and gay marriage are not universally considered unacceptable...they are considered unacceptable by certain citizens who are trying to force their morals on other people. That's what irks me.


Funny..that what I feel as though the gays are doing to us "Moral people";)

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2004, 09:30:00 PM »
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Just what do you think laws are based on? Laws are based on what is and what is not socially accepted behavior, which is governed by people's moralities.

Why is it againt the law to walk down the street naked? Why is any law a law?


Bingo. Exactamundo. Preeeee-cisely. Nail on the head. You get the idea.

Secular morality is transient and based on nothing more tangible than whim. In our society you have a better chance of going to prison if you kill an animal than if you kill a human.

Secular laws are law because people generally agree they are a good idea- that is, a majority of people agree it's a good idea. Majority rules. Over time, these laws change as people's views change. It's inevitable.

Nuke has you nailed, texace. People agree it's a bad idea to have people steal your stuff. People agree it's a bad idea to speed through a school zone. People agree (supposedly) it's a bad idea to allow smoking in a privately owned bar. In every case, morality is being shoved down SOMEONE'S throat.

But... all you have to do is reconcile how a fetus of so many weeks is a baby in one case and a fetus in another in a way that doesn't make anyone sound like a cold-blooded baby killer and you'd probably win over the anti-abortion crowd. This of course assumes the baby/fetus is healthy and the choice is made on the coin toss called "woman's right to choose". No medical emergencies allowed, because no reasonable anti-abortion advocate would argue that point.

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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2004, 09:36:43 PM »
im not touching this with a 10 foot poll.

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good....
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2004, 09:45:09 PM »
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im not touching this with a 10 foot poll.


It would probably be best ya didn't.

Most of what I have read on here that you have said anyway is laughable and full of contempt and begging for an argument. Course that's just my opinion which I feel fairly confident on this bbs means nadda. But there ya have it anyway.

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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2004, 10:03:50 PM »
Eh, not the first time I've been wrong...won't be the last.

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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2004, 11:17:55 PM »
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It would probably be best ya didn't.

Most of what I have read on here that you have said anyway is laughable and full of contempt and begging for an argument. Course that's just my opinion which I feel fairly confident on this bbs means nadda. But there ya have it anyway.


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